OK, I see your reason for the post. Well, did you consider that the measurement device could have actually shown that result? No one can be sure as to exactly what it is reading under the test conditions. I personally would agree with you that it is hard to believe that such an increase actually happened, but we need to find out what lead to the measurement.
This is the type of anomalous happenings that lead to new discoveries. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Cude <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 12:44 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:High school physics says > 1 GJ excess energy for the Oct. 28 demo On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:20 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: This post is completely out of touch with reality. Who has ever claimed anything about dry steam and Rossi's device at 90 C? Why not discuss the real world instead of dreamland? I did discuss reality. I said it is implausible from thermodynamics that the power transfer can increase 8-fold in a matter of minutes, as Rossi claims, if the first-fold power increase takes 2 hours. Then I was told that implausible thermodynamics don't matter because Rossi is introducing a new phenomenon. So then to test whether they really believed that suggestion, I proposed an even more thermodynamically implausible scenario, and asked if they would accept that implausibility if Rossi claimed it, because Rossi is introducing a new phenomenon. That's an analogy. All of us, except, as you say, those in dreamland, would reject the notion that water would boil at 90C at atmosphere, just because the heat comes from a Rossiaction. The idea that an 8-fold increase in the power transfer requires an 8-fold increase in the temperature difference between the water and the heating element is a less obvious thermodynamic concept. But it is nevertheless just as true. So, just because the heat comes from a Rossiaction, it remains implausible that the power transfer could increase that fast.
