On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Berke Durak <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2011/12/1 Joshua Cude <[email protected]>:
> > Putting in a gamma source is easy. Putting one in that could account for
> the
> > 10 kW of power? Not so easy. This would correspond to megacuries, or at
> > least hundreds of kCi. That's 1000 times more radioactive than the
> sources
> > in devices used for radiotherapy, and unshielded, they are extremely
> > dangerous.
>
> Curies don't mean much by themselves.
>
> Your figure is assuming 6.5 MeV gammas.
>
> Do we know the spectrum of the gammas inside the reactor?
>
> There was some talk of 500 keV gammas.
>
> In that case you get
>
>  10e3 [J/s] / ( 1.6e-19 [eV/J] x 500e3 [eV/photon] ) = 1.25e17 [photon/s]
>
> This is
>
>  1.25e17 [photon/s] / 3.7e10 [photon/s/curie] = 3.4e6 [curie]
>

So far, so good. I said megacuries. So, that fits.


>
> Assuming an area of 25 cm^2, that's a flux of 5e19 photon/m2/s.
>
> Then 2.5 cm of lead is approximately necessary and sufficient to
> shield that flux to less than
> 1 photon/m2/s.
>
>
Whoa. That doesn't fit my experience in undergraduate physics, where we
used a few microcurie Cs-137 source (gammas 660 keV), and counted the
gammas through several cm of lead. It's a bit more energy, but a trillion
times lower activity.

Looking it up on the NIST web site, I get a linear attenuation coefficient
of 1.8 cm^-1 for 500 keV gammas, which corresponds to an attenuation at 2.5
cm of exp(-1.8*2.5) = 1% or so. Have I made a mistake in there somewhere?
Because that corresponds to a lethal  10^15 gammas/s total into 4pi solid
angle.

Even with 10 cm of lead, as Villa mentioned, attenuation is 1e-8, leaving
some 10^9 gammas/s total. Still absolutely unmistakeable, even with a small
detector sampling some tiny part of the solid angle.

And Villa cut a hole in the lead. And still measured nothing above
background.

Photons well below 200 keV would be largely stopped, but that doesn't fit
the conceivable reactions. So, maybe they're inconceivable.

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