In reply to Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint's message of Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:44:29 -0800: Hi, [snip] >Axil: > > > >Let me take a stab at your question:
It wasn't Axil's question, it was mine. > >"Why should coherent protons be any better at thermalizing gamma radiation >than ordinary protons? (Especially if that coherence is limited to pairs)." > >The coherent photons are acting as a resonant antenna. I'm sure many have >played around with resonant circuits, and antennas. Coupling of energy from >the radiowave into an antenna requires a harmonic match. At the end of my >comments is an excerpt from research into how quantum coherence in plant >biology operates to achieve very high efficiencies in the energy transfer in >photosynthetic proteins. > > > >My recent readings only enhance my suspicions that resonances (i.e., >coherence) are fundamental to LENR and why the channeling of the nuclear >energies goes into much lower energy (thermal) 'sinks' instead of coming out >as high energy particles. In normal condensed matter, there is little to no >real coherence which is harmonically related to the energy packets coming >out of a nuclear process, thus, that packet of energy exits the condensed >matter before being absorbed (coupled) into other energetic elements of the >condensed matter. no resonant antennas to receive the energy. > > > >The normal picture of coherence in bulk matter, is basically, none. >Non-coherence. There is some, but what does exist is very fleeting in time >and not spatially localized; it's just randomly happening in small areas, >all throughout the bulk matter, and only for very short times. Thus, there >is a extremely small chance that a particular fleeting instance of quantum >coherence will be in the same location as a burst of a quantum of nuclear >energy passes by on its way out of the bulk matter. Thus, extremely low >probability of any interaction; of any transfer of energy. Note this >statement from the excerpt below, > > ">>>These coherences therefore dephase before even the fastest energy >transfer timescales<<< > > > >Coherence also influences 'interferences', both destructive and >constructive. Note specifically this statement from the excerpt below, > > > > >>>destructive interference in a coherent system might disallow transfer >to a trap state or > > constructive interference might enhance transport to the target >state.<<< > > > >So quantum coherence can indeed affect energy coupling/transfer from one >energy level to another. Any method to create long-lasting (i.e., stable) >areas of quantum coherence (i.e., resonant antennas) within condensed matter >that hang around long enough to get hit by quanta ejected from nuclear >processes, will act to channel/couple the expelled nuclear energies into the >lattice instead of that energy exiting the bulk matter as gammas or neutrons >or the typical particles expected from hot fusion. > > > >Summary: > >Just think of quantum coherences as resonant antennas, but blinking in and >out of existence throughout the bulk matter. Very low probability for any >energy transfer from nuclear ejecta, thus ejecta exit bulk matter intact. >Find a way to create coherences that are harmonically related to the nuclear >ejecta, and which hang around long enough to get hit by those ejecta often, >and you will have drastically altered the branching ratios one would expect >from 'normal' hot fusion. Two new questions: 1) What part of such an ensemble is resonant with gamma rays (of what energies?), and why? 2) If such ensembles are fleeting, then one might expect at least some gamma rays to escape, yet few to none are detected? There should also be a difference in magnetic coupling between RH atoms and IRH atoms (though I'm not sure whether it should be stronger or weaker). Note that in IRH it is claimed the proton orbits around the electron, and since the proton is much heavier than an electron it goes a lot slower than an electron would, yet it carries the same charge, so the effective proton current would be much smaller than the equivalent effective electron current. This implies a considerably weaker magnetic field, which is however to some extent compensated for by the much reduced separation distance. Care to work out the field strengths, and the resonant frequencies? (My guess is energies on the order of keV, as opposed to gamma energies on the order of MeV, which implies essentially no resonance.) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
