On 12-01-20 04:39 PM, Craig Haynie wrote:
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 13:25 -0800, Eff Wivakeef wrote:
What is for sure is that Greg advertised the SMOT all over the net and
lived off the income for a few years. [ ... ]
This is news to me too. The way he approached this list back in the
mid-90s, was as a regular guy who had found this interesting thing with
magnets and a steel ball. ...

He may have been a guy who just got lazy and failed to deliver...

No. He could never have been "just lazy". That would imply he really had something real, and just didn't follow through on it, but that is certainly not true. He was dishonest about it from the word go; he had nothing which worked.

He was claiming to have a device which violated physical law -- and not just an obscure second law violation in marginal conditions, but a violation of well understood, extremely well verified laws of how magnets interact with each other, which certainly also included a pure and simple first law violation. It was a straight-up type 1 PMM, with no wiggle room for "statistical violations" or ZPE or Casamir forces or other "possible cheats".

He obviously *never* had a working model.

Yet, he CLAIMED to have a working model (certainly an outright lie), which ran and ran and ran (certainly a lie), and he claimed to have a videotape of it running for an extended period (certainly a lie). However, he couldn't actually produce the tape -- there was some cock&bull story about something happening to the tape so he couldn't show it to anyone, and some bogus reason why he couldn't tape it again.

So, he was clearly a bald face liar, asking people for money for something he certainly knew he didn't have.

To suggest that we welcome him back to the list, after he stole money from list members, would be outrageous. (I'm not sure anyone actually made that suggestion.)

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