Good point Robert, and let me leave this for Milstone. You might fool some of these guys on occasion, but not all of them for many hours as to the main contention - that there is/was a bona fide thermal anomaly (when the P-in became negligible).
They were invited for a number of reasons (non-threatening, as competitors) but one would be hard pressed to find a dozen PhDs anywhere who would sacrifice their reputation for a nut-case like Rossi. Here is a list of Scientists who attended the October test: Prof. Petterson, Roland - Uppsala University Prof. Campari, Enrico (Univ. Bologna) Prof. Bonetti, Ennio (Univ. Bologna) Prof. Levi, Giuseppe (Univ. Bologna) Prof. Clauzon, Pierre (CNAM-CEA Paris) Dott. Bianchini David (Univ. Bologna) Ing. Swanson Paul D. (Space and Naval Warfare Systems- US Navy) Prof. Focardi, Sergio (Univ. Bologna) Prof. Stremmenos, Christos (Univ. Atene) Prof. Jobson, Edward (Univ. Goteborg) Ing. Vandevalle Koen (Belgio) Dr Enrico, Billi (Fisico, Ricercatore, CINA) This list does not include technicians and other faculty. From: Robert Lynn Rossi is a dodgy character, but that does not mean that it isn't working. There are a lot of others out there with Impeccable professional scientific reputations who are getting high-level outputs from similar Ni-H systems. Eg Brillioun Energy reported 2x gain in February last year at relatively low temperatures of just 120°C http://www.brillouinenergy.com/Brillouin_Second_Round_Data.pdf. There are also Miley, Arata, Ahern, Focardi, Piantelli, Celani that I can think of off the top of my head who have announced pretty sizeable power outputs recently, and now no doubt hundreds of unknown others who are working like crazy to improve on their performance and then apply for Patents. The only reason that we are not seeing more publicly noticeable activity is that in commercial R&D the only time you publicise anything is when you are looking for funding, and as soon as you can show a potential investor that you are getting commercially viable levels of performance in LENR you will rapidly have all the money you need and will go deathly silent to gain any commercial advantage you can. While Rossi's buffoonish dog-and-pony show has been playing out in the public eye in the absence of much corroborating activity from others I am quite sure that this is just the calm before the storm (like military build up before war) while myriad serious players are rapidly advancing the field in silence. No doubt they will start to become visible in next year as patents applications start to surface and commercial products are announced. It has become evident that a key requirement is to run the reactors at elevated temperatures and pressures (which is where Brillouin are headed for example), but it is expensive and tricky to set up and do testing and calorimetry at higher temperatures and pressures (beyond means of most amateurs). Until Rossi announced there was not much money or interest in working in that regime, so in spite of his erratic behaviour bringing LENR into some public disrepute again we can at least be thankful to him for increasing the number of people working in what appears to be the most commercially promising area for LENR. On 21 January 2012 07:32, Shaun Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: On 21/01/2012 5:46 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 10:33 PM, thorium breeder <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I ask the wisdom of the crowd for a sanity check. Can rossi achieve "do it yourself isotopic separation"? One of the more far out of Rossi's claims, made clearly and at least twice in his misnamed blog (JONP), was that he can do (nickel) isotope separation on the cheap. Of course, that's immensely unlikely. He was asked how he does it and of course he said it was proprietary. It ranks up there with the self destruct system and the private homes and factories which are currently heated by E-cats but of course we can't see them or talk to the owners. In the latest video interview, you know the one with the unmoved BBB, the BBB that Rossi said was GONE to the customer but later said was never was GONE, there is a factor heater just behind the right door of BBB. A NORMAL LPG BASED SPACE HEATER. There is no heating in his lab either. What a crock. Thanks to Dick Smith and Ian Bryce we now know how his scam works. They suck in gullible green investors through his licensees doing investor presentations. Talks to them via Skype to help the licensee get them over the line and signing the cheques. Bet there was a shill or 2 in the audience that night, who would sign over fake cheques so as to get the others to do likewise and not miss out. Shaun
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