________________________________________ From: Mark Goldes Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: Yamali Yamali Subject: RE: [Vo]:Putting the nuclear debate into perspective
The eventual death toll from Fukushima is estimated to reach as high as one million. The Northern Lights are particularly beautiful lately for a little recognized reason. Here are some comments from the nuclear scientist who publishes pissinontheroses.com "The recent solar event will interact with high atomic weight fallout (both radioactive and NON-radioactive) in the upper atmosphere and produce a witches' brew of new radioactive fallout via nuclear spallation processes.” "Experts" are starting to get a glimpse into how little they know about the witches' brew coming out of Fukushima. Today's revelation is that FukushimaUranium is forming Bucky Balls via the action of salt water. So what is so bad about Radioactive Uranium Bucky balls? Well, picture some one throwing very fine, non caking, radioactive "talcum powder" into the air; that in essence is the outcome of this finding. But it gets worse, imagine that radioactive "talcum powder" behaving and dispersing the exact same way when thrown into the water. But it gets worse, notice in the picture above that the Buck Ball is actually a cage, now picture plutonium atoms trapped inside that cage. But it gets worse, now picture how much greater a target these Bucky Balls are for spallation in the upper atmosphere. What this finding means is that ALL the dispersion models are wrong, and NOT in the good way. It also means that the internal impact and damage from inhaling or consuming these particles is far greater than would otherwise be expected. However, don't expect the "it's safe" mantra to change. If you want to even begin to have an idea how bad this situation is, Google the medical effects of Nano Particles(and remember they are discussing NON-Radioactive nano-particles) Mark ______________________________________ From: Yamali Yamali [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 2:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:Putting the nuclear debate into perspective Sorry - answered to the wrong mail at first. > the standby diesel generators depend upon the grid They don't. The whole point about diesel backup power is that the grid might be unavailable. Fukujima happened because the diesels were damaged (strange idea, in hindsight, to place them so close and relatively unprotected to the waterline) and they shut down the nuclear reactors rather than leaving them running to provide power for continuous operation. But I see Jed's point about feasability in general. Human error will always happen and can never be ruled out - so sooner or later something like this is bound to happen again. It'll be slightly different, of course, and the lessons learned will be different, but eventually it'll happen. The thing I don't like about the nuclear discussion is that its often totally out of perspective. People talk about Fukujima (which, afaik, didn't cause any deaths) and forget the earthquake itself. I got in a discussion about nuclear energy recently with somebody who's major argument was that "20.000 dead people in Japan are enough". She seriously thought they were caused by radiation rather than water or fallen ceilings. Our government ordered a "stress test" on all our plants (in Germany they're all along streams rather than the coast) in the aftermath of Fukujima. One of the scenarios was the simulation of a quake causing a broken dam upstream from a plant. They did fairly well in the simulation - but the point is that the worst case scenario would still have caused more than a million deaths. All from the tidal wave washing downstream through narrow, densly populated valleys - none from radiation. Yet the conclusion was to get rid of nukes as fast as possible and (counter intuitively) subsidize alternatives like building more nice green and politically correct dams and large pump hydro storage plants... oh well.
