I hope that the scientists can achieve the look and taste of normal meats.  It 
would be difficult to eat fabricated meat products unless they closely resemble 
the real thing.

I suppose that people can learn to accept whatever is placed before them as 
food, but thus far there is little interest in eating insect protein that is 
available in great quantities.  Unfortunately, some of us that have been around 
a while have become accustomed to eating specific items and have high 
expectations.  

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:In vitro meat production


Meat production already takes up more than half of the world's estimated 
agricultural capacity, in one way or another. U.N. figures show that animal 
farming takes up 30 percent of the planet's exposed land mass. And over the 
next 40 years, the demand for meat products is expected to double.
 
If the researchers' assumptions are correct, growing meat in the lab "could 
reduce the energy expenditure by about 40 percent," Post said. Lab-grown meat 
has also won the endorsement of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or 
PETA, because the stem cells could be extracted without killing animals.
 
For more see:
 
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/19/10449704-lab-grown-hamburger-due-to-be-served-up-this-year-for-330000
 
 
 



On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

The efficiency of food production can be increased many fold by the elimination 
of most non-essential animal parts and systems. The elimination of unproductive 
body parts such as skin, bones, fat, nerves, head, hoofs, beaks, claws, hair, 
feathers, intestines, reproductive parts, and the others sundries that have 
evolved over time to keep an animal viable as an independent biological machine 
can be eliminated with a concomitant gain in power and cost efficiency.
 
Not having to walk, keep warm, think, excrete, and the other essentials of 
everyday life greatly reduces the food processing waste products and 
real-estate requirements involved with animal based food production.
 
Not having to meet the nutritional interfaces of standalone and independent 
biological systems is a real plus.
 
A pound of hamburger or frankfurter protein can be produced with great 
efficiency from a soylent green type slim based cultured biological emulsions 
in million barrel vats compared to current animal husbandry technology by at 
least an order of magnitude in productivity in terms of power consumed per 
pound of product.   

 
 
 
 



On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

In a thread infected with the recursive Vo error, Harry Veeder 
<[email protected]> wrote:
 

Growing plants for food may be energy inefficient, but eating animals
strikes me as indulgent
and unethical if we could chemical synethsize all our food needs.



I do not think it will be possible to synthesize food in the near future. 
Perhaps it will hundreds of years from now. For the next few hundred years I 
expect conventional biological methods will be used. For plants, this means 
production in food factories, probably with hydroponics. For meat, I predict it 
will mean in vitro production. See:


http://www.new-harvest.org/default.php


I believe rapid progress is being made in this field. I hope it succeeds, soon. 
I agree that it is cruel and unethical to eat animals if we have a humane 
alternative such as in vitro production. I expect the product of in vitro 
production will be healthier for the humans who eat it.


- Jed








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