Hello jojo 
Why not use a heater at the bottom to create s thermosiphon flow,  a updraft of 
hydrogen and nickel.. 
Mårten 

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Rubrik: [Vo]:Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol
Datum: tis, mar 20, 2012 23:59
Axil, Excellent series of posts on Rydberg 
Matter.  Very informative.  Thanks.  I now have a better 
understanding.

My question centers on speculation about how Rossi 
might be creating Rydberg matter of Cesium or Potassium as you speculate.  
Tell me if my speculation makes sense.

In Rossi's earlier reactor design, I 
speculate he had a cylindrical reactor with a wire in the middle which he 
subjects to high voltage.  The high voltage creates sparks.  The 
high voltage may have been applied at a specific frequency.  I suspect the 
high voltage applied at just the right frequency would create tons of and tons 
of Rydberg matter via sparking.  I am thinking that if the frequency were 
too low, there would not be enough Rydberg matter created.  If the 
frequency were too high, it would possibly create a too high localized 
temperature to "cook" and melt the nickel powder rendering its nanostructures 
inert thereby killing the LENR reactions.  I'm thinking the trick is 
to find out the right amount of sparking - enough to create tons of Rydberg 
matter but not too much to melt the nickel nanostructures.  It would also 
be important to design the heat and convective flow inside the reactor to 
properly distribute the heat.

With this cylindrical setup, the nickel powder 
would be "bunching" at the bottom of the cylindrical reactor.  Applying 
repeated sparking onto this pile would increase the chances of melting the 
nickel nanostructure due to increased localized high temperatures due to
sparking.  This would explain Rossi's quiescence problem.  He can only 
apply sparks for so long till the Ni powders would melt. 



To solve this quiescense problem, Rossi had to 
figure out how to distribute the sparks over a wider area - basically he has to 
spread the nickel powder.  I believe this is what prompted Rossi to design 
his "FAT Cat" design.  If I remember correctly, his home E-Cat was shaped 
like a laptop with the reactor itself being only 20x20x1 cm in 
dimensions.  This is essentially two metal plates separated by a thin layer 
of pressurized hydrogen.  The nickel is spread out thinly over the surface 
of the plate.  He then subjects the plates to high voltage to create 
sparks.  He controls the amount of sparks by varying the frequency of the 
high voltage.  If he needs more reaction, he increases the frequency of the 
sparks creating more Rydberg matter to catalyze more reactions.  If he 
lowers the amount of sparks, he lowers the reaction rate.  Spreading the Ni 
powder would also have the effect of spreading the heat thereby minimizing the 
chances of too high localized temperatures.

In DGT's design, they have cylindrical reactors 
machined from a big block of steel.  I believe they would then put a wire 
in the middle just like Rossi's original design.  (I believe that the 
purpose of the "window" in DGT's test reactors is to observe the sparks during 
testing.)  DGT minimized the quiescene problem by using Ni sparingly and 
spreading it  out over a longer cylindrical reactor.  Rossi's 
cylindrical reactor was short and fat, hence his Ni powder would be bunched up 
in the bottom.  DGT's cylindrical design was longer and thinner, thereby 
spreading the Ni powder, minimizing quiescense as they claimed.

To me this appears to be evident.  
I believe part of the electronics in Rossi's blue control box is 
electronics for controlling the sparking rate, which he calls 
"RF".  

So basically, I think you may be right 
about Rydberg matter.  I think the strategy is to design a reactor that 
would subject the Ni and catalyst mix to sparks promoting the creation of 
Rydberg matter.  Then make sure that there is sufficient turbulence 
inside the rreactor to agitate and blow the powder all over thereby minimizing 
the chances of "cooking" the powder while simultaneously increasing the chances 
of a chance encounter between the Rydberg matter catalyst and the Ni 
nuclei.  

So, essentially, I think the secret is sparks with 
lots of  turbulent mixing. I have designed a new reactor setup to try out 
these ideas.  I will have a horizontal cylindrical reactor with a 
"stripped" spark plug electrode as the high voltage source.  I will then 
drive this spark plug with an Ignition coil actuated by a Power MOSFET driven 
by 
the PWM output of my MF-28 data acquisition module.  I will program 
the sparking frequency by controlling the rate of PWM output.  (Later on, I 
will program a feedback mechanism to lower the sparking rate if the temperature 
gets too high.)  The trick would then be to find the right amount of 
sparking for the highest amount of heat production.  To increase chances of 
success, I will be including all elements suggested as catalyst - ie iron, 
carbon, copper, tungsten, sodium,  potassium and cesium, although cesium 
might be harder to acquire.

What do you think of my plan?

Once again, thanks for sharing your theoretical 
understanding so that we engineers can build and do the 
experiments.

Jojo







----- Original Message ----- 
From: 
Axil Axil 

To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:31 
AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rydberg matter and the 
leptonic monopol

Hi Bob,
Much thanks for your interest in this post.
In order to answer your question properly, it’s going to take some time… so 
be patient.
I will respond in a series of posts.
Post #1
Bob Higgins asked: “Rydberg hydrogen has a very loosely 
bound electron”.
Axil answers:
Besides hydrogen, many other elements and even various chemical compounds 
can take the form of Rydberg matter. 
For example in the Rossi reactor, I now suspect that the ‘secret sauce’ 
that Rossi tells us catalyzes his reaction is cesium in the form of Rydberg 
matter. I say this because of the 400C internal operating temperature range 
that Rossi says his reactor operates at. 
If this internal operating temperature is actually 500C, then the reactor 
may be hot enough for his secret sauce to be potassium based Rydberg 
matter.
Bob Higgins asked: “With 
such large orbitals as Rydberg electrons occupy, how can such a phenomenon be 
considered inside a nickel lattice?”  
Axil answers:
This Rydberg matter never gets inside the lattice of the micro powder. This 
complex crystal can grow very large (1). It sits on the surface of the pile of 
micro-powder where under the influence of its strong dipole moment, coherent 
electrostatic radiation of just the right frequency lowers the coulomb barrier 
of the nickel nuclei.  
Because this is an electrostatically mediated reaction, only the surface of 
the nickel micro-grain is affected. The electromagnetic field cannot penetrate 
inside the nickel grain.
But this field does penetrate deeply in and among the various grains of the 
pile of powder to generate a maximized reaction with every grain 
contributing.
The electrostatic radiation of this dipole moment catalyzes the fusion 
reaction. In detail, this strong dipole moment lowers this coulomb barrier of 
the nuclei of the nickel just enough to allow a entangled proton cooper pair 
to tunnel inside the nickel nucleus, but not enough to allow the nickel atoms 
of the lattice to fuse.
Micro powder allows for a large surface area relative to the total volume 
of nickel. More surface area allows for more cold fusion reaction. This is why 
the use of micro powder is a breakthrough in cold fusion technology.
On page 7 of the reference, this aspect of the experiment is revealing:
“In order to complete the story of transformation, we should consider this 
problem: where does the transformation take place, either throughout the whole 
space of the explosion chamber or only in the plasma channel? To answer this 
question, we carried out experiments with uranium salts (uranyl sulfate, 
UO2SO4) [3].”
The answer that they found was as follows: throughout the whole space of the 
explosion chamber.
This is to be expected because the coherent dipole moment of Rydberg matter 
is extremely strong and long ranged.  It is like an electromagnetic laser 
beam that can exert its influence over a distance of centimeters. 

(1) LeClair said he saw the size of one of his crystals as large 
as a few centimeters.   






On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Nice posts on the Rydberg effects, Axil.  I like reading 
them.  Please continue posting them.  But, I am confused.  
Could you can help me understand these questions:

Rydberg hydrogen has a very loosely bound electron.  How would 
these Rydberg electrons survive high temperature phonon collisions without 
the atom becoming ionized and as a result breaking up the condensate?

With such large orbitals as Rydberg electrons occupy, how can such 
a phenomenon be considered inside a nickel lattice?  The electron 
orbitals would extend greater than the nickel lattice spacing.  Other 
condensates are possible, but why would you think these are Rydberg?  
While we know that the LENR appears to happen at the surface, and it also 
appears to require support from within the lattice (loading) - so it 
sounds like some kind of condensate effect is needed within the 
lattice.

In the NanoSpire case, it is not clear how the H-O-H-O- crystals that 
form are Rydberg.  What evidence supports this?  They may be some 
kind of condensate, but not necessarily Rydberg.

The large dipole moments you describe would certainly make it easy for 
the Rydberg atoms to couple to other atoms electronically and form a
condensate from that coupling.  However, I don't see how that strong 
dipole provides support for the charge evidence that you described from 
NanoSpire.  Can you explain that a little more?




On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Axil Axil 
<[email protected]> 
wrote:


Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol
This post is third in the series on Rydberg matter which includes as 
follows:
Cold Fusion Magic Dust
Rydberg matter and 
cavitation

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