that is one of the subject covered by Srivastava conference at CERN this
22/03/2012...

other strange experiments are :
- abnormaly energetic particle from solar flare
- exploding wires producing neutrons

in his (numerous) slides Larsen talk of other strange phenomenons.
-one about the strange istotopic change in nitrogen near a coke factpry in
south africa
- strange isotopic change and composition change in iraki oil when reformed
long time...
- old japanese experiment or arcing in oil, with possible transmutations...
- old transmutation observed in x-ray tube filled with H2 (einstein worked
on that a little, proposed ideas similar to Preparatta)



2012/3/27 Harry Veeder <[email protected]>

> Might this be related to the piezonuclear activity (production of neutrons)
> observed during the laboratory fracturing of granite under strain?
>
> "these locally extreme conditions could catalyse in the interpenetration
> band the formation of a plasma from the gases which are
> present in the solid materials (even at room conditions)."
>
> from
> Piezonuclear neutrons from fracturing of inert solids
> Physics Letters A 373 (2009) 4158–4163
> F. Cardone , A. Carpinteric, G. Lacidognac
>
> Harry
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Novel Attractive Force Between Ions in Quantum Plasmas
> >
> > http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556.pdf
> >
> > This is the paper behind the article.
> >
> > This paper explains the theoretical basis of a new form of matter called
> > ionic crystals.
> >
> > Ionic crystals are the agent that causes cold fusion.
> >
> > The article says: Quantum plasmas extend the area of application to
> > nano-scales, where quantum-mechanical effects gain significance. This is
> the
> > case when, in comparison to normal plasmas, the plasma density is very
> high
> > and the temperature is low.
> >
> > Axil says:
> >
> > This is what we have in the Rossi type reactor. The hydrogen envelope is
> > very high density plasma with a very low temperature. The population of
> > degenerate electrons in this envelope is high due to the high pressure of
> > the hydrogen gas.
> >
> > These degenerate electrons force Rydberg atoms together into a condensate
> > and keep this condensate together when the crystal ionizes.
> >
> > These degenerate electrons produce a force field at long range that
> pushes
> > protons together to form cooper pairs. This attractive electron field
> also
> > forces naked positively charges nuclei together that have had their
> coulomb
> > barrier stripped as described in my post titled “the magnetic monopole.”
> >
> > When these naked nuclei come into contact, the nuclear force takes over
> to
> > form new elements.
> >
> > Degenerate electrons are attributable to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.
> The
> > pressure maintained by a body of degenerate matter is called the
> degeneracy
> > pressure, and arises because the Pauli principle prevents the constituent
> > particles from occupying identical quantum states. Any attempt to force
> them
> > close enough together that they are not clearly separated by position
> must
> > place them in different energy levels. Therefore, reducing the volume
> > requires forcing many of the particles into higher-energy quantum states.
> > This requires additional compression force, and is made manifest as a
> > resisting pressure.
> >
> > Therefore, since according to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle ΔpΔx ≥
> > ħ/2 where Δp is the uncertainty in the particle's momentum and Δx is the
> > uncertainty in position, then we must say that their momentum is
> extremely
> > uncertain since the particles are located in a very confined space.
> > Therefore, even though the plasma is cold, the electron must be moving
> very
> > fast on average. This leads to the conclusion that if you want to
> compress
> > an object into a very small space, you must use tremendous force to
> control
> > its particles' momentum.
> >
> > This is what the micro-cavities in the micro powder do; compress
> electrons
> > into the degenerate state.
> >
> > The article says: The new negative potential causes an attractive force
> > between the ions, which then form lattices.
> >
> > Axil says:
> >
> > This is why Rydberg ions are formed so readily in a pressurized hydrogen
> > envelope.
> >
> > The article says: They are compressed and the distances between them
> > shortened, so that current can flow through them much faster.
> >
> > Axil says:
> >
> > This is why electrical resistances drops as the temperature increases in
> > cold fusion material.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Fran,
> >>
> >> Reduced, or completely masked?  Don’t know yet…
> >>
> >> It’s still ‘in press’ so I doubt PRL will have an abstract yet…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What’s interesting is this:
> >>
> >> “The new negative potential causes an attractive force between the ions
> >> [of the plasma], which then form lattices. They are compressed and the
> >> distances between them shortened, so that current can flow through them
> much
> >> faster.”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So the (degenerate electron) quantum plasma forms *its own lattice*!?  A
> >> nano/micro-scale lattice of plasma… now that ought to have some
> interesting
> >> properties being that the ions are much free-er (is that a word?) that
> in
> >> condensed matter.  If this plasma lattice encompasses the first several
> >> layers of atoms in the condensed matter (Ni, Pd, etc), could the
> compression
> >> of the plasma lattice physically force protons to cross the Coulomb
> barrier?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Could this be the nuclear active areas that LENR researchers have
> >> discussed?  A quantum plasma lattice juxtaposed or co-physical with a
> >> condensed matter (metal) lattice…  Obviously, it would take specific
> >> conditions to bring this about, and on a small volume, and probably
> short
> >> lived with the disruptive randomness of quantums of heat energy being
> >> shuffled about inside the metal lattice.  This quantum lattice could
> >> certainly be the ‘collective oscillations’ that McKubre and others have
> >> hypothesized… same phenomenon, different name. Or does the plasma
> ‘lattice’
> >> imply additional properties not considered by LENR researchers?
> >>
> >> The other interesting clue which could be relevant to LENR is this:
> >>
> >> “Such plasmas …. can be produced artificially in the laboratory by means
> >> of laser irradiation.”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Remember that some LENR work (SPAWAR?) has looked at laser stimulation,
> >> and it seemed to have a positive effect…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think the problem with the lack of good theoretical basis for LENR
> comes
> >> from the fact that we really are discovering an entirely new field of
> >> physics, and there are numerous interactions that can occur… which just
> >> serves to confuse things… too many effects to coordinate into a
> qualitative
> >> model that can then be quantitatively explored and modeled.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Truly exciting times!  This will probably dwarf the importance of the
> >> transition in understanding when going from the Bohr model of the atom
> to
> >> quantum mechanics nearly 100 years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Mark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:19 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New physical attraction between ions in
> >> quantum plasmas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >>                 Is this proof of a reduced coulomb barrier?
> >>
> >> Fran
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:08 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:New physical attraction between ions in quantum
> >> plasmas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hot off the press!
> >>
> >> Not sure is this is relevant to LENR, but think it could be…
> >>
> >> When ions get closer: New physical attraction between ions in quantum
> >> plasmas
> >>
> >> Quantum plasmas extend the area of application to nano-scales, where
> >> quantum-mechanical effects gain significance. This is the case when, in
> >> comparison to normal plasmas, the plasma density is very high and the
> >> temperature is low. Then the newly discovered potential occurs, which is
> >> caused by collective interaction processes of degenerate electrons with
> the
> >> quantum plasma. Such plasmas can be found, for example, in cores of
> stars
> >> with a dwindling nuclear energy supply (white dwarfs), or they can be
> >> produced artificially in the laboratory by means of laser irradiation.
> The
> >> new negative potential causes an attractive force between the ions,
> which
> >> then form lattices. They are compressed and the distances between them
> >> shortened, so that current can flow through them much faster.
> >>
> >> The findings of the Bochum scientists open up the possibility of
> >> ion-crystallization on the magnitude scale of an atom. They have thus
> >> established a new direction of research that is capable of linking
> various
> >> disciplines of physics. Applications include micro-chips for quantum
> >> computers, semiconductors, thin metal foils or even metallic
> >> nano-structures.
> >>
> >> More information: P. K. Shukla and B. Eliasson (2012): Novel Attractive
> >> Force Between Ions in Quantum Plasmas, Physical Review Letters 108, in
> >> press.
> >>
> >> < p class=MsoNormal>Gee, you mean there are still new things to
> discover?
> >> Science still has things to learn?  I’m being sarcastic here…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is why when anyone, especially a scientist, states that something
> >> isn’t possible because it contradicts laws of physics, they are just
> >> flat-out wrong.  ALL one is justified in ever saying in that situation
> is
> >> that it’s very unlikely.  if they don’t speak in probabilities, then
> they
> >> are probably wed to their theories as much as any person is to their
> >> religion…  it’s ok to ‘not know’.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Mark
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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