David,

Can you explain your conclusion.
I can't see how any energy is released in these Ni --> Cu transmutations.

Lou Pagnucco

David Roberson wrote:
> I may have been a bit to fast in pointing out the possible endothermic
> nature of the Ni62 and Ni64 reactions.  They actually are the best two
> isotopes to use if you were not to rely upon the beta plus decay for a
> substantial portion of the energy release.  They further are not
> susceptible to having the 511 keV gammas that would no doubt be released
> by the reactions involving the other nickel isotopes since copper 63 and
> 65 are stable and do not decay into nickel by that process.
>
> So, if Rossi is actually able to overcome the coulomb barrier by some
> mechanism and his device only uses the Ni62 and Ni64 isotopes then it
> could be functional.  The energy released per atom for these two isotopes
> is only 1 or 2  MeV after satisfying the coulomb barrier, but that is a
> lot more than any chemical reaction can deliver.  I wonder if the
> relatively modest amount of energy release also can be more safely
> directed toward useful forms such as vibrational coupling into the
> surrounding structure.
>
> All of my estimates and calculations assume the reaction path that has
> been suggested by Rossi instead of the W&L process which would be much
> more energetic.  Each of these proposed mechanisms has it's own particular
> problems to overcome.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Roberson <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 10:30 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)
>
>
> I just wanted to point out that if Ni62 and Ni64 are the only isotopes
> that work then the addition of a proton to either results in the
> production of a stable isotope of copper which does not undergo beta plus
> decay.  Much less energy is released per atom if the beta plus decay is
> avoided.  My calculations suggest that these two reactions might actually
> be endothermic due to the large coulomb barrier.
>
> Perhaps this is a bit of misdirection?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: integral.property.service <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 9:30 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR)
>
>
> A.R. from Florida with love,
> "Andrea Rossi


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