This line of thought reminds me of the hole-electron way of looking at 
semiconductors.  My mind is stuck on the electron side of the fence.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Veeder <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2012 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Got mass? Princeton scientists observe electrons become both 
heavy and speedy


I am reconsidering old ontologies, discarded in the middle 19th
entury, as a jumping off point.

his paper published in 1984 describes a little known experiment in radiant
ooling done in the late 18th century by Pictet and repeated a few years later
y Count Rumford.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxxczzEYA5C5Rmg2b0ljZG9yaVk
What we usually hear about Rumford is his canon boring evidence against the
aloric theory of heat. However, less well known is his theory of frigorific
ays.He held that cold emanations were as real as hot emenations and he
nterpreted the Pictet experiment as evidence of his theory.
In the paper the radiant cooling effect observed is _qualitatively_
xplained using modern
adiantive heat transfer theory. However, the geometric symmetry of the
xperiment does not invalidate the existence of frigorific rays.
umfords proposed a resonant model of radiation which could excite
otion in materials (radiant heating) or dampen motioninmaterials
frigorific cooling). Th author of the paper points out some
redictive difficulties with his model, but I think this comes from
aking Rumfords ringing bell analogy too literally. Anyway what
nterests me was his intuition that cold is more than just the absence
f heat, i.e. that cold has some positive existence.
I think it is possible to redesign the experiment so that it would either
learly support Rumfords intuition or dispose of it.
It is relevant to note that well before Rumford, Francis Bacon also regarded
old as having an independent existence from heat, although his particular of
onceptions of cold as a "contractive power" and heat as an "expansive power"
ere different from Rumford's.
Harry

n Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> wrote:
 Interesting!

 We always thought of cold as the absence of heat, darkness as the absence of
 light, evil as the absence of good, weightlessness as the absence of
 gravity.....

 Now, you are saying there is something that actually cancels heat instead of
 just removing it - an anti-heat?  Can we find this concept in Quantum
 Mechanics?

 Can you elaborate?


 Jojo


 PS: This reminds me of a Bible passage which talks of "a darkness that can
 be felt..."  Hey, maybe you're not too way off on this.





 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Veeder" <[email protected]>
 To: <[email protected]>
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 1:18 AM
 Subject: [Vo]:Got mass? Princeton scientists observe electrons become both
 heavy and speedy


> Got mass? Princeton scientists observe electrons become both heavy and
> speedy
> http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S33/94/41S36/
>
> "It is remarkable to watch electrons moving in a crystal evolve into
> more massive particles as we cool them down," said Ali Yazdani, a
> professor of physics at Princeton and head of the team that conducted
> the study."
>
> This is consistent with my belief that inertia is form of coldness and
> that coldness is something substantively real rather than merely being
> the mere absence of heat.
>
> Harry
>
>


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