Axil: What do you think 'quantum fluctuations' are?
"According to present-day understanding of what is called the vacuum state or the quantum vacuum, it is "by no means a simple empty space", and again: "it is a mistake to think of any physical vacuum as some absolutely empty void." According to quantum mechanics, the vacuum state is not truly empty but instead contains fleeting electromagnetic waves and particles that pop into and out of existence." How does one know that the 'low frequency' fluctuations aren't the much lower beat frequency of two or more quantum fluctuations which are at much higher frequencies? Folks, show me an instrument that can measure frequencies of 10^-23 or faster??? Doesn't exist. yet. Is there any wonder why quantum theory is based on probabilities??? I think it's obvious why that is the case.. -mi From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:26 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.027202 The Casimir force arises because of quantum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field in the space between two conducting plates. The Drude model predicts that low-frequency fluctuations play no role in the Casimir force and are due to an electrostatic force coming from electrical potential differences on the membrane surface. If the either can be framed in terms of and all pervasive electromagnetic field throughout space, is that what these other names are describing? Cheers: Axil On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:47 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: "Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this." I think that's what the zero-point field and Casimir effect is all about. just because this generation chooses to call it by a different name doesn't mean it's different. -Mark Iverson From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:23 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: As I have suggested in the past, the only way this could work is if momentum is imparted to the vacuum itself, i.e. to the universe as a whole, thus allowing momentum to be conserved. Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this. Eric
