Jones,
Well said!
Fran
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 1:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:magma heat source?
David - the short answer is yes, it is definitely NOT coincidental that
the well-documented trigger temperature in many NiH systems is around the Curie
point of nickel (358 C). The problem is that there could be several known
processes interacting at the same time, including a dynamical Casimir effect,
to provide what is essentially 'new physics' but also non-nuclear gain.
This is at the heart of an emerging theory of nanomagnetism, being
promoted by Ahern and others. It is incomplete and evolving. It does not deny
that a small level of nuclear reaction can occur as a side effect, but proposes
that the main thermal gain is non-nuclear, in the sense of too little radiation
and too little transmutation to account for the heat.
Almost all physicists, even the ones who are open to some kind of novel
energetic reaction "want", even demand that any gain must be nuclear in direct
proportion to the thermal gain (as opposed to chemical or zero point).
Unfortunately, it is not.
The "unfortunate" part about this predicament is that it adds another
level of skepticism to the arduous process of re-educating the mainstream of
physics. In effect, we are saying that not only is the preponderance of gain
non-nuclear, but yet LENR does indeed occur at tiny QM levels, so there seems
to be "two miracles" involved. That would be - as opposed to only the LENR
miracle (but actually it is two parts of the same miracle, yet I will leave
that fine point for another time). The only way this re-education will proceed,
of course, is first to demonstrate the high level of gain in ways that
nanomagnetism emerges as the only possible way to explain it. This could take
decades to fully accomplish, but it will happen IMO.
The final "dot to connect" and the reason Mills name comes up often, in
developing a workable model involves the magnetic properties of f/H (fractional
hydrogen) vis-à-vis the nickel host. Molecular hydrogen is essentially
nonmagnetic. Atomic hydrogen, in contrast, has high magnetic susceptibility,
high magnetic moment and high NMR sensitivity and high mass mobility. f/H is
exponentially higher in all of these features, as this is generally a function
of inverse square or higher power law, so every shrinkage step adds up to a
tipping point. In terms of effective magnetic field strength, we are talking
about thousand of Tesla.
Curiously, and unlike Mills' CQM, the nanomagnetism theory (at least my
version) requires the dense Rydberg hydrogen state (redundant ground states),
but finds the putative gain from that shrinkage process either un-necessary or
orders of magnitude less than the realized thermal gain which is seen.
When you have kilo-Tesla equivalent magnetic attraction being cycled
against Coulomb repulsion, and this is acting on an extremely medium (mobile
target atom) somewhat as a yo-yo, then essentially this dynamic system operates
as a 'pump' for an underlying field (ZPE, Higgs, EPO, etc). Thus, the
population of f/H will be used and reused millions of times in its role as
'medium for the ZPE pump', and its original formation is only mildly related to
net gain - just as net gain is only mildly related to LENR, which is
essentially evidence of the final collapse of the yo-yo medium.
From: David Roberson
Jones, I want to inject my question about the effect of magnetic
fields into the considerations. You have pointed out that power is always
required for heat generation and I recall that power is supplied by means of an
electric current in most cases. I think it is prudent for us to make an
attempt to determine how a magnetic field might influence the operation.
The fact that a certain temperature makes a difference tends to
suggest the rearrangement of grains of the material which is a characteristic
of magnetic behavior. Nickel is particularly responsive to magnetic fields.
Do you see any way to include such an effect within your analysis?
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Jones Beene
From: Roarty, Francis
* Is it possible that 1) Ni-H releases H, 2) the released H is
forced
into Pd fissure, 3) its electron cloud goes through redistribution,
and 4)
energy is released. [snip]
Doesn't that scenario presuppose that there is an adequate
distribution of
pure palladium in the magma, and in particles which are large
enough to
fissure? That situation seems unlikely in a statistical sense -
given the
rarity of Pd in the earth's crust, and the fact it is almost always
found as
an alloy, and is very ductile and would heal fissures when under
pressure.
However, something similar with Ni-Pd alloy could happen, according
to
Ahern's Arata replication.
But first, isn't "electron cloud redistribution" a dynamical
Casimir effect,
not necessarily involving fusion? That is my take on it. If so, you
do not
need fissures anyway (as opposed to maximum loading). However, this
brings
up two overlooked points.
There is a most interesting but limited paper showing thermal gain
in
hydrogen filters - which is seen around 350 C. The effect is the
small
'bump' in the graph that happens after power is cutoff. This same
trigger
temperature was found by Ahern, and by several others - and it has
been
found in both Pd and Ni (and in alloys of the two) - always in a
range
around 350 C. That information is all in the public domain, and in
the paper
from Fralick of NASA -
lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FralickGClenratgrcp.pdf or
http://tinyurl.com/cydppod.
It is not a big effect in itself, but the 'bump' or gain - is
persistent.
Perhaps all that is needed, for getting excess heat continuously
from even
the hydrogen filter shown in the paper - is to cycle around this
point
continuously, using good controls. In a commercial context, that
should
read: "using good controls such as NI and Siemens have developed
for this
niche". Does this not explain why one must add heat to an
exothermic process
in order to get the excess heat? And why the Austin meeting could
provide
confirmation of some of what has been mostly anecdotal.
That little detail - concerning a novel process always requiring
some level
of power input to get excess output - is perplexing to all the
experts in
thermodynamics who want to model this as a nuclear process... one
where heat
addition is not required. It is not primarily that kind of process!
But let
me add the caveat that, yes - a small number of real nuclear
reactions can
and do occur - but as a side effect. The nuclear reactions seen are
4 orders
of magnitude too low to provide the excess energy, but they do
manage to
confuse everyone into thinking that this is nuclear (instead of
primarily
non-nuclear with a small nuclear side-effect).
I am almost certain that this will be the one big message, if not
the only
useful message, which comes out of the NI conference in Austin:
"cycle your
input carefully around the trigger point". Of course, this means
Rossi is
either full of BS with his 600 degree nonsense, or else that he has
found a
completely new reaction regime over the most common one (and the
one which
he started with). The smart money is on "completely full of BS"
and/or his
silly attempts to always add misdirection and disinformation, into
the mix.
So back to the original suggestion of an alternative for magma
heating.
Nickel is not rare. In earth's crust, there is 99 ppm of Ni
compared to .015
for Pd - several thousand times more. Plus, deuterium is not needed
for NiH
thermal success. Plus, Ahern and others discovered that an alloy of
nickel
with only 5% Pd provides 400% increase hydrogen loading compared to
pure Pd
(4:1 vs 1:1). If we are looking for energy gain through some kind of
electron cloud redistribution, or whatever happens in tight
loading, then
you would want maximum the loading and the porosity of the matrix,
no? That
eliminates Pd in favor of alloys which seem to be mostly (95%)
nickel, and
in some kind of a natural porous 'foam' with Casimir internal
cavities which
form and disappear as the magma squishes around, and there are
probably many
undiscovered hosts for this process.
Jones
