Way back when early Man had slowly begun to learn how to build an outside 
shelter other than what a cave provided, he *learned* how to utilize the 
available resources such as hay, mud, stone, wood, etc., then, metals..... and 
now considering this, ask yourself this question..... were these things 
learned, innate, inevitable and/or have we been assisted by someone of a higher 
power and/or capability?                                                      
                                                        Is this *Progress*, 
or Not?.  The answer is Yes, and it means that we evolved, BUT  it also 
means we are not only alone, but we are (in nature that is).  Now, without this 
somewhat lengthy (speaking relatively, strictly of course) process, we 
neither have evolution or creativity.  As nice as it would be, this life wasn't 
just put here in a devive beam of light by God, (altho, you could say that), 
but rather, we are the product of millions of years of adapting & evolving 
to an eve demanding environment that forces us to change and/or progress to 
this *very* natural world of survivalism  (I'm better than that).            
   
 
Several thousand years ago, early civilization was living in a very small 
world, AND it is important to remember that it wasn't *even* known that the 
world was round.   In one sense, religion is nothing more than *belief* which 
is based only on a very basic knowledge of what was known at the time. To 
compare what was known back then, from what is now, is all but absolutely 
ludicrous. The only way to proceed from here is to revise, and the Bye Bull 
shall always be for those who can *only* be, in the past (Real Realists).       
                                                                            
                                                                          
Anyone can *believe* in God, but the problem is that as we outgrow all of the 
many fairly tales & myths, and *learn* the various properties of matter & 
laws of physics, we need to keep-in-mind where we are in the greater scheme 
of things. *Those* who are so very far above us *know* that "we" can only 
make-it-up as we go (along for the ride).  While it's good to believe, it's 
better to know, and *noone* of any greater power or ability would deny us that 
(quite the contrary).                                                        
                                                              While we are 
stuck (firmly) in the past, and are bound by these naturally dibilitating 
limitations, we should begin to allow ourselves the right to believe in 
something that's  worth arguing about... For me, an Ungodly amount of Progress 
has 
been thoroughly accomplished by extremely highly evolved/developed 
civilizations,,, of which, have been motivating & inspiring ourkind since our 
ancestors fell out of the trees. Sadly for us, the monkey business that we are 
currently involved in, has long since been left FAR behind.                     
                                                                            
                                                                     
Dealing with this fact, will require just about everything that we think we 
know, 
to be thoroughly revised. Translating the BuyBull is relatively easy, 
because all you have to do is *realize* how easy people of those days were 
influenced.  The Word Of God perse, is nothing more than someone claiming to be 
telling the truth as they believe it to be... anything else, is from the devil. 
                                                                            
                                                                            
                                                                            
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