3 days of loading a *wire*-based demo setup.
Celani wanted a safe demo for NIWeek and ICCF17.
Using nano powder is a different application I read the patent applies in
particular for nano-structured Nickel, e.g. powder / foam.




On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Andre Blum <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Thanks.
> One of Celani's helpers told Krivit that it took 3 days to load the
> hydrogen. I wouldn't consider that fast :-). It was interesting though that
> after that he could just let the gas out, take the setup with him to Texas,
> reload with hydrogen and immediately see the effect and pick up the
> electrical resistance value  exactly where it was left in its slight
> downward slope.
>
>
> On 08/13/2012 12:05 PM, Teslaalset wrote:
>
> Celani got a patent published early 2011 on treating nickel nanastructures
> to get fast and high hydrogen absorbtion in Nickel:
>
> http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20110210&CC=WO&NR=2011016014A2&KC=A2
> Maybe in the meantime he has advanced this method but it seems to me a
> good direction of his thinking.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Andre Blum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  In the presentation they say they use agents as well:
>> "We use several layers of "agents", coated around a Si-Al ceramic surface
>> surrounding the nickel foam, to help RSH atoms to survive this journey.
>> Some of these agents are ZnO, MgO and ZrO2."
>>
>> Do I undertand correctly that the Celani treatment mainly consists of
>> stripping off the plastic insulation off ISOTAN44 and then running a 2A to
>> 3A current for about 5 minutes? And that this grows nanostructures on the
>> wire surface? That sounds pretty simple to try.
>>
>>
>> On 08/13/2012 11:31 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
>>
>> Quite logical they think about using off the shelves products, and
>> especially well known techniques used for catalyst that increase active
>> surface...
>> Good engineer practice.
>> maybe mixing that material with other treatment (like the one Celani do
>> on his wires, but adapted to foam), could even make it better... maybe is
>> it what they do...
>>
>> did anybody else thought about using that kind of foam in LENR research ?
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/13 Andre Blum <[email protected]>
>>
>>>  The nickel foam that defkalion describes in their NI-week slideshow
>>> seems to be an off-the-shelve product.
>>>
>>> Funny enough, it is available from a company called ecocatalysis,  ecat
>>> in short.
>>> The stuff is shown here:
>>>
>>> http://ecocatalysis.com/en/products/foam-materials-foam-metals/nickel-foam-en.html
>>>
>>> Nice ecat logo!
>>> The photo of the foam is the exactly the same as the one used in the
>>> defkalion slide deck.
>>>
>>> Andre
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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