Kelley, I basically agree with Your assessment. The outer tubes are tightly sealed and could have any pressure. The inner tube just shows the energy released from the outer tube; And is ofcourse 1bar pressure.
To retrieve the energy from the inner (1bar) tube seems trivial. It is just for demonstration. If the whole process is like it seems, I owe some deep apology to Rossi, and bow my head to his genius. This does not come easily to me. Rossi seemed to understand the role of foams quite early. If this is sufficient to term him the genius saviour of mankind, I still have my doubts. I Igive him credit though, for being persistent, and a bit earlier than others. As to the theory side I agree with Peter Gluck and DGTs operational hypothesis of multistage processes. There seems to be a lot more going on than WL etc seem to suggest. But on the other hand I am only a bystander, who does not want to give up his common sense science easily. Guenter ________________________________ Von: Kelley Trezise <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: 18:16 Montag, 13.August 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:1200 degrees E-cat operating at 1 bar? First, it the ends are closed with just putty then the system is operating at atmospheric pressure but that suggests that hydrogen gas can leak out and oxygen can leak in. I suppose such an arrangement could be used to allow the quick assembly and disassembly of units for testing but such an arrangement seems too feeble to hold up to the heat. There must be metal end closure that is more robust. I imagine a large washer welded to the outer tube and the inner tube able to be slipped into place or vise versa and putty used more sparingly to close the gaps. The glow of the inner tube is due to the fact that it cannot convect heat away efficiently (only natural convection and radiation are at work in this test) and because any point on wall of that tube "sees" only the other parts of the wall that too are radiating heat to it at the same rate, so there is no net heat transfer and the temperature will rise to something close to the operating temperature of the core of the reactor. Of course, near the ends of the tube it partly "sees" the environment and the temps there are lower. My WAG is it is at a temperature a couple of hundred Celcius below the core temp. I am sure this test is run to test the ability of the core to operate at very high temperatures and is not being run at the maximum power ability that could only be achieved by flowing a coolant through it to carry away the energy. Any attempt to calculate the ouput of the displayed device using gestimates of the convection and radiation heat transfer rates will come up short of 14 kW. Also, if you come within 20% of the correct value with a natural convection heat transfer calculation, you are doing very, very well or got lucky. Such calcs are notoriously dicy. I sure hope were are not being strung along as I really want to believe in this E-Cat thingy. But I keep slapping myself and reminding myself: "If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't." ----- Original Message ----- >From: Andre Blum >To: [email protected] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 7:28 AM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:1200 degrees E-cat operating at 1 bar? > > >Does anyone know of a physical explanation why the inside would become so >much hotter than the outside?
