I had unsubscribed and never intending to repost here again but I just can't 
stand the pretentious verbal diarrhea of this self-appointed so called LENR 
Expert.

Last time I checked, science and the scientific method involves First, coming 
up with a hypothesis to explain the observed phenomena, then testing your 
hypothesis with experiments.  And this is exactly what CE is doing.  He has 
come up with a hypothesis and I believe he intends to test it with experiments. 
 He has graciously shared his theory for peer review and discussion.  He has 
done the first steps of what a good scientist should be doing.  Of course, I am 
cognizant of the fact that his theory is new and a little incomplete, but CE 
has made no pretensions otherwise.

But instead of contributing to the discussion about the theory and advancing 
our understanding, Abd has resorted to envious criticism.  This verbal diarrhea 
is symptomatic of what is wrong with scienctists nowadays (not that I consider 
this dude to be a scientist by any stretch of the imagination.)  Too much pride 
and false expertise being thrown around.  This dude Abd thinks he is an expert 
in LENR, and criticizes anything that he did not come up with.  He did it with 
Axil and now with CE.  Yet, he himself has not really come up with anything to 
advance our understanding of this field.  Nor is he involved in any experiment 
that we know of, to help explain the phenomena.  Just all talk and verbal 
diarrhea and criticisms and insults.

Frankly, I am sick of all talk and no action from this dude.  Though I do not 
consider myself an expert, at least I am doing something to help explain this 
phenomena.  Much much more that what Abd has done with his pretentious 
criticisms and verbal diarrhea.


Jojo


PS:  Tell us Abd exactly what your expertise is.  A quick google search reveals 
Abd to be a college dropout who's claim to famed is that he "studied" physics.  
Now, he is a wikipedia editor for Cold Fusion.  So, this is the background of 
our Wiki "expert". You know what my mother always says; " Shallow waters run 
noisy."   LOL ...  







Re: [Vo]:Theory Panel Dissensus
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:42:38 -0700

At 05:02 AM 8/15/2012, Chemical Engineer wrote:
I was hoping they would embrace my theory and observations but I guess it is a 
little too early for that. 
Really, CE? Were you actually that naive?

Here is the situation. PdD cold fusion was discovered -- or rediscovered -- 
over twenty years ago. There is still a lot that is unknown about the reaction 
conditions and details. 
The problem has engaged many highly knowledgeable people, including theoretical 
physicists, specialists in quantum mechanics, and Nobel Prize winners. Nobody 
has yet come up with a theory, to date, that is satisfying, that successfully 
functions to predict experimental outcomes, particularly when we look for 
quantitative predictions of any accuracy. Sometimes theory has predicted a 
general outcome. For example, Miles was aware of Preparata's theory, that 
predicted helium as the primary ash, when he did his work to demonstrate the 
heat/helium correlation. 
But since helium was already on the table as a normal product of fusion (albeit 
at a different branching ratio), this can't be seen as much of a confirmation 
of Preparata's theory. And I'm not even familiar with Preparata's actual 
theory, it's not given much shrift today. Most of the early theories looked to 
the lattice as the reaction site, it was only known later that the FPHE is a 
surface effect. 
  If everyone could get on the same page this fledgling industry can generate 
some serious revenue and transform the World! 
Cart before the horse, CE. We need more science, first. We need to know more 
experimental results. You seem to think that the obstacle is a lack of 
explanatory theory. No, it's been pointed out by many that we have too many 
theories, and not enough testing. Many of the existing "theories" have been 
inadequately developed to be used to make specific predictions that can 
discriminate between theories. 
Really, many of these theories are only conjectures, that *possibly* this or 
that phenomenon is involved. I'm not seeing anything different about your 
gremlin (singularity) theory. You simply assert possibility, and you are 
asserting it about a phenomenon where we don't have experimental evidence that 
the phenomenon even exists, and what consequences it would have. 
It's quite convenient for the formation of new theories. Since nobody really 
knows how small singularities would behave, just make up whatever behavior you 
can imagine might be so. You can then explain all kinds of anomalies. However, 
producing real value, in terms of increasing our predictive capacity, the goal 
of theory development in science, is quite another matter, more difficult. 

My theory explains the following observations:

Ed Storms, well respected in the field for years predicts based upon 
observations the anomalous effect occurs in the cracks and voids of the 
lattice. Collapsed matter from hydrogen ion collapse would certainly occur in 
these locations due to concentrated energy charges, hoop effect and collisions. 
Prof. Celani has witnessed the same effect. 
CE, this is totally made up. It's not stated why singularities would only occur 
in cracks and voids. No clue is given for the actual size of the defects. (A 
similar criticism can be made about Storm's theory, though he does propose some 
limits. The crack cannot be so large as to allow D2 formation, and obviously it 
must be larger than the lattice spacing.) 
  Once collapsed matter singularities are formed they instantaneously seek 
thermodynamically stable states with their surroundings. Prof. Celani witnessed 
that once his metal lattice had been loaded with hydrogen and had previously 
shown anomalous heat generation he could shut the system down, transport it and 
it would immediately show further anomalous heat upon excitation without 
additional loading. The singularities remained within the lattice during 
transportation to Austin. 
Or the cracks and loading remained, or Celani's work is showing a heat 
artifact, or, or. 
  Conductivity inversion effects in a metal wire/lattice. It is well understood 
that a singularity carries charge, angular momentum and radius like any other 
particle. It is also understood that when they evaporate they emit charged 
particles. This can have a direct effect on the conductivity of a metal. 
No explained observation. I'd expect uncharged singularities (and some would be 
uncharged, it depends on what they have eaten) to be promiscuous, they would be 
like ULM neutrons. There would be some very observable effects. 
  Temperature Inversion. Dr. Brian Ahern mentioned temperature inversion within 
samples in the nanometer range. It is well understood that singularites can 
consume heat from their environment, temporarily cooling their surroundings. 
Eventually, they will evaporate that energy and entropy back to their 
surroundings through Hawking radiation. 
Of course, any kind of chemical storage effect can also explain negative XP. 
There is no actual explanation here, only an assertion that some effect *might* 
happen with singularities, conceived as a Swiss Army Knife of anomaly 
causation. 
  Hawking Radiation should emit RELATIVELY low energy level radiation due to 
quantum gravity redshifting of the radiation as it escapes. This has been 
witnessed in most all anomalous heat events. 
No quantification, and with claims like this, quantification is essential. What 
"radiation" has been observed in "most" anomalous heat events? 
  The amount of energy released can be great. This has been witnessed in the 
Intelligentry/Papp Engine as well as claimed by Rossi, DGT and Celani. Since 
Hawking Radiation obeys e=mc2, very high levels of energy may be released as 
the newly formed singularity seeks thermodynamic and spatial equilibrium within 
its environment. Some of this radiation may also be elementry atomic particles 
such as quarks and gluons. 
Essentially, gremlins can do anything. Really, they should be called the God 
particle, not this Higgs thing. So, then, we can explain any anomaly with 
Goddidit. 
There is a long tradiion in Vortex of taking unconfirmed, unverified, and often 
unquantified reports and then asserting them as proof of this or that wild 
theory. Of late, I'm seeing Papp, Rossi, DGT, and Celani used as proof of ... 
hey, if there are four anomalies in our universe, isn't asserting a common 
cause what Occam's Razor requires? 
What's wrong with this picture?

Rossi/DGT/Celani, okay, they are all working with NiH. But Papp?

Rossi/DGT assert XP, as heat. Very much as heat. Celani the same, working as a 
scientist, openly, and not such a large amount of heat. Papp? (I.e., the people 
now working with the Papp engine) Little or no heat, but pressure, and reported 
very, very incompletely. The most obvious things we'd want to know are not 
given. The Papp story is *weird*. Truly weird, it makes Rossi look like a 
sober, reliable character. Papp, it's known, actually faked some stuff, and 
likely faked some more. You really want to build your theory on "evidence" 
coming out of that mass of confusion? 
  Hawking radiation may create Fission and Fusion products within the near 
vicinity. Since this radiation covers a wide spectrum, it will bombard the 
local environment with low level, wide spectrum radiation which over time 
should transmute additional elements. The good new is that the quantum 
gravitational pull of the singularity will lessen the radiations energy. 
It's all vague as hell. I'm not seeing *anything* that would be a guide to 
experimental verification. By not making truly specific predictions, with 
rates, one avoids, then, the possibility that already-existing data might rule 
the theory out. W-L theory pulls that trick. 
  Collapse of nearby matter by falling into the singularity may lead to 
additional elements being transmuted in the local vicinity. The radiation 
energy from that will also be redshifted to weaker energy emissions. 
Again, only a vague prediction. Attempting to make quantitative predictions 
would reveal the weakness. "Transmuted" by what. If something is collapsing and 
gaining momentum as it collapses, what it might collide with is also in the 
influenced region. So how would these transmuted elements actually end up being 
observable? 

The "heat after death" syndrome is caused by the ongoing evaporation over time 
of the singularities as they continue to seek a thermodynamically stable state 
in their immediate environment as well as emit Hawking black body radiation. 
This has been witnessed in many cold fusion situations. 
Heat after death (which is simply continued or elevated XP after electrolytic 
power is turned off, it doesn't apply to gas-loading experiments) has been 
"witnessed." Not "ongoing evaporation over time," and the time-behavior of heat 
after death doesn't seem to match what would be seen as a relaxation -- 
evaporatoin -- phenomenon, which would show a particular kind of decline. 
  Since singularities emit charged particles they should aid in sustaining the 
birth, evolution and evaporation of more singularities in the vicinity. 
Charged particle radiation is below certain fairly low thresholds, 20 KeV is 
what Hagelstein claims. There is no evidence that CP radiation has any effect 
like this. As the effects of singularities are described, they would be 
ubiquitous, but, then, useless as an explanation for cold fusion, which is far 
from ubiquitous. 
Now, to the point: the necessary consensus in the field of cold fusion theory 
is very unlikely to be formed by someone with little detailed and practical 
knowledge of quantum physics coming up with a bright idea that nobody else ever 
thought of. Chances are that any of these ideas has already been thought of, 
and rejected, by those with more knowledge. 
This doesn't mean, by itself, that you are wrong, CE. Just that some humility 
might be in order. Just realize how many people have looked at this, without 
fruit that can, as yet, actually be eaten. 
Storms has proposed a general theory of cold fusion in his recent paper. I 
suggest considering it as a series of hypotheses based on his extensive 
experience of the field. He's probably right about some of these, but he does 
stray into proposing a specific mechanism that, to this observer, seems 
preposterous. (I call it "slow fusion.") Nevertheless, it may turn out that the 
reality does, in some way, resemble what he's proposing. 
We won't know until we have far more data, very likely. I don't see that your 
theory, CE, explains the existing data, it's really just a series of 
conjectures that singularities might generate various convenient phenomena, 
with no actual, specific prediction. And certainly no verification. 
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that any physicist with a clear 
understanding of singularities (if anyone like that exists, the field is 
controversial) won't be quite so enthusiastic about your theory. 
Of this I'm sure. A cold fusion theory that requires a whole new field of 
phenomena, not simply an extension of what we already know and observe, into 
perhaps some unfamiliar territory, isn't going to be accepted unless it becomes 
completely unavoidable. We aren't even close to that yet, as to requiring 
singularities to explain the experimental phenomena. 
Madness lies down this road, be careful, CE. One can easily become convinced 
that one has The Answer, and if only others would listen.... 

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