Jones, I read then reread then reread again this post to make sure I fully understand the implication of what you are saying.
If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that p + p would result in 2He, which would would quickly decay back to p and p again, resulting is net energy loss. First question, are we certain of this. Could our understanding of Stellar reactions simply be faulty and we do not really have a complete picture of what's going on in the Sun. Has this reaction rate been seen experimentally seen and verified, or is this just a theory. It seems to me that 2He being a Noble gas would be stable and not decay back to 2 H+ ions. If what you are saying is true, wouldn't all our helium simply spontaneously fission back to H+ ions, ergo, we wouldn't see any Helium in the atmosphere. Second question, if this reaction is implausible as you suggest due to rapid decay of 2He back to 2 H+, is there any other possible reactions that would benefit from charge screening afforded by the nanohorn NAE. Boron gas??? instead of H2 gas? Boron and H2 mixed gas? Jojo ---- Original Message ----- From: Jones Beene To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:46 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Topology is Key. Carbon Nanostructures are King From: Jojo Jaro PS: On a different note, what would a p + p fusion reaction look like. I have designed a new reactor with a view sight glass, hopefully, I'll see some fusion reactions taking place. This is where the problem arises. Sadly, you will probably never see it, even if you look until you are as old as I am. This reaction cannot happen above background rates on earth, or outside of extreme acceleration gradients, such as in a mile long beam-line. Even on the sun, it is seldom gainful. It is a two step reaction and the gain does not come from fusion at all - but from the subsequent beta decay of the metastable fused helium (2He) into deuterium. Most of the time, essentially all of the time - the reaction will NOT proceed to deuterium since the initial helium-2 nucleus will revert back to two protons and a slight net loss. Even on the sun, there is only one successful beta decay per every 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 fusion events J (or else the sun would have run out of fuel early on) . and there is doubt among experts that there is net gain in this reaction at all, even on the sun, considering the rarity of the beta decay and the elastic scattering. Again - just so we are clear, gain in PP reactions depends completely on the secondary beta decay of the initial helium-2 nucleus, and this is extraordinarily rare. It is QM and not thermonuclear. You will never see it in LENR, unless of course, there is a novel version of it which is precisely the proverbial second or third miracle in LENR (over and above the excess heat and lack of gamma radiation). But if multiple miracles are required, in addition to excess heat - you might as well stick with Gremlins J Jones BTW as for transmutation products - these are mundane in many situations. Roy Hammack spent a lifetime documenting transmutation under power lines (always happens) lightning strikes and even in neon light electrodes. The point being that transmutation alone means little more than that an electron arc was present. If you want to show the heat came from the transmutation - that is a far different story, and Piantelli or no one else has come close to a correlation of the heat radiated to the tiny amount of transmutation.
