Yes indeed, mass is reduced as matter is converted into energy, however, the 
gravitational potential energy of the universe always remains in balance with 
its positive energy.  Photons have a gravitational influence.


http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter7.html#Pg12 




Frank Znidarsic


I believe that is incorrect. According to the physics textbooks I have
>read, all sources of energy, and all forms of energy, always reduce mass.
>All endothermic reactions increase mass.





-----Original Message-----
From: mixent <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2012 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:All energy releases cause a mass deficit


In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 5 Sep 2012 14:26:17 -0400:
Hi,
>Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> We know of one exception to the conservation of energy, which involves the
>> interchangeability of mass and energy. So the ultimate principle is
>> conservation of mass/energy. However, mass conversion is very much out of
>> the ordinary, and is highly unlikely in a "magnet motor."
>>
>
>I believe that is incorrect. According to the physics textbooks I have
>read, all sources of energy, and all forms of energy, always reduce mass.
>All endothermic reactions increase mass.
>
>I recall this is essential to general relativity. At least, to the parts
>that everyone agrees on.
>
>According to Philip Morrison the mass deficit has never been confirmed in
>reactions on earth. Either the change in mass is far too small to measure
>(for example, with a combustion or nuclear power reactor), or the energy
>release is too large and too fast (for example, with a megaton nuclear
>bomb).
>
>- Jed

...while true, if the source of energy is external to the experiment, then the
mass loss will be too. E.g. tapping into the energy of the van Allen belts will
lead to a loss of relativistic mass of the protons in the belt, which we
wouldn't detect here on Earth (or at most through a dimming of the aurorae).

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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