Wolf Fischer <wolffisc...@gmx.de> wrote: Out of curiosity: Has there ever been a scam in which a safety certificate > from a big and independent organization has been granted?
Interesting question. I do not know much about scams. I do not have a comprehensive database of them. Perhaps such a thing exists on the Internet. But anyway, most of the ones I have read about did not involve any actual equipment. The machines are just a rumor, a blurred photo, or a blueprint that the scammer offers to sell people. There was nothing to certify, so it is not as if a government expert was brought in and somehow bamboozled. I doubt that could happen. Many people say there have been scams involving cold fusion. I do not know of any, and I would probably have heard. I have been approached by 2 or 3 people who found me because of my connection with cold fusion, who I thought were either scammers or delusional. They wanted me to pay money to have a look at a secret machine. These were magic magnet machines, nothing to do with cold fusion. I offered one of them $10,000 C.O.D. for a machine delivered to me and demonstrated on the premises. I never heard from him again. I did not expect to hear from him again. Along the same lines, I have also never heard of a scam that might fool experts such as E&K. Every scam I know of would be instantly found out by someone of that caliber. I mean they would take one look inside and instantly see how it actually worked. It would be like trying to persuade an auto mechanic than an ordinary gasoline motor was actually an electric motor, or like trying to persuade me that a sentence written in Korean was actually in Japanese. Abd has sometimes claimed that academic experimental scientists are pushovers. They are easily fooled because they are not conditioned to look for hidden tricks. I doubt it, but one thing is for sure: experimental scientists know as much about ordinary electrical components as any electrician or mechanic does. Someone like E&K, Storms, McKubre, Duncan or Miles can glance at any ordinary machine or experiment and tell you what every component is and what it does. These people are, in effect, glorified hands-on mechanics with decades of experience. They have spent these decades mainly finding experimental errors, which are far more subtle and difficult to locate than any trick that a scammer might come up with. No one plays tricks better than Mother Nature. It is not as if Rossi was showing his machine to an insurance salesman or a mass media pundit who has never heard of the difference between AC and DC power. - Jed