This page is not widely known? -- "Dozens of scientific papers were published between 1905 and 1927 concerning the mysterious appearance of hydrogen, helium and neon in vacuum tubes. The matter never has been resolved."
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/nelson2_6.html Jeff On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com>wrote: > If you want relatively copious transmutation reactions, you use high > voltages. I don't know the rates, specifically, but I'd not be surprised to > find some low level of transmutation at 100 V. That's pretty hot, anyone > know the equivalent temperature? > > From Wikipedia, I come up with 100 eV as being about a million degrees K. > That's not ordinarily considered hot enough for fusion, but "hot enough" > means "fusion at an appreciable rate." If a tube has years to accumulate > stuff, I wouldn't be surprised at all, and that was my point. > > The papers that were linked in another post, from Rex Research, were about > high voltage discharge tubes. One produced a 12 inch spark. What is that, > 200 KV? I forget. The information below showed 3 million neutrons per > second, indicating perhaps six million fusions (depends on the reaction) > per second, at 70 KV. So could those old results have been coming from > fusion? Reasonably likely, in fact. So? > > Cold fusion involves much higher reaction rates than one would get in > plasma experiments at the 10-20 volts that might be used in electrochemical > work. And, folks, no neutrons, no gammas, not from PdD, at any rate. Cold > fusion is something quite different. > > Nobody came up with references to an accumulation of transmutations in old > triode vacuum tubes, as used in amplifiers and such. I wasn't looking for > things like high voltage discharge tubes or the Farnsworth Fusor! The > latter was specifically designed to create standard hot fusion. Yes, it's a > vacuum tube.... but not what we were talking about. > > > At 09:00 PM 9/16/2012, Alan Fletcher wrote: > >> > From: "David Roberson" <dlrober...@aol.com> >> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:30:21 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article >> > To me 250 electron volts of energy in the form of electron projectiles >> > is incredibly small. The neutron generators that can be had all >> > operate with something like 100 keV which is fairly close to 1000 >> > times larger, and they use deuterons as the projectiles. >> ..... >> >> > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> >> > I couldn't find any reference in a quick search to accumulated >> > transmutations in a triode. >> >> > Anyone got a reference to an actual report of transmuted elements >> > from vacuum tubes? >> >> Searching along these lines did get me to the Farnsworth (of TV fame) >> Fusor : >> http://carlwillis.wordpress.**com/2008/02/17/farnsworth-**fusor-carls-jr/<http://carlwillis.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/farnsworth-fusor-carls-jr/> >> http://carlwillis.files.**wordpress.com/2008/02/thesis2.**doc<http://carlwillis.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/thesis2.doc> >> >> 3.0*10^6 neutrons/sec from a 70 kV spherical accelerator. >> > >
