Axil,
{snip] Slow loading produced radiation and fast loading
produced heat.[/snip] I think this factoid supports more interest in the Haisch
- Moddel concept of circulating gas through permanent tunnels of alternating
Casimir and insulating layers - the loading and de-loading are both accelerated
- slow loading is almost eliminated by the constant gas flow - it also has an
inherent design that avoids hot spots and aides in heat sinking - I'm
suggesting a hybrid that employs their concept of circulation with fractional
hydrogen instead of the Lamb pinch of noble gas but still employs the smaller
geometry afforded by random self assembly of powders. I don't know if
insulating layers could be easily incorporated or just depend on the range of
geometry to vary the suppression.
Fran
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:35 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:A LENR route to green fission?
Piantelli also found the two channel effect in his radiation experiments. This
behavior was caused by the speed in which hydrogen loading was done in nickel.
Slow loading produced radiation and fast loading produced heat.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2004%2F2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdf&ei=WqpaULaAFIXy0gGb94DABQ&usg=AFQjCNHu3w5dimV_JIaouNutOQePoXu2Pg&sig2=D0x1bSsDVfrhx7bM0uaKyg
A formation of condensate of proton pairs would thermalize the energy coming
out of these LENR based nuclear reactions.
If the proton condensate does not form, the LENR associated radiation comes out
of the nucleus as energetic particles since there is no proton condensate
available to thermalize this nuclear energy.
Cheers: Axil
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM,
<pagnu...@htdconnect.com<mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com>> wrote:
Good points, Jeff
Maybe, I'm assuming incorrectly, bu from Mosier-Boss paper excerpt -
"These results indicated that there were at least two channels - an
aneutronic channel that produced heat (the so-called true Fleischmann-Pons
effect) and another channel that favored formation of energetic charged
particles, neutrons, and tritium. It was Swartz [3] who suggested that, by
adjusting the experimental parameters, one could
switch from one channel to the other."
- I surmised that rather than just fully aneutronic channels, there were
also low energy neutrons, since (I think) transmutations have been reported
in the absence of high energy neutron emissions.
Yes, Pu-239 is very long-lived, but doesn't this mean it will hang around
long enough to capture enough neutrons to convert to some shorter-lived
isotope? And, similarly with other long-lived byproducts?
-- Lou Pagnucco
Jeff Berkowitz wrote:
> I'm having a hard time making sense of this on several levels.
>
> For a one thing, the Mosier-Boss results (including the paper you link
> below and previous papers, all found in a page on their site) document
> fast
> neutrons, not thermal neutrons. For another thing, fission would put the
> lie to their waste claims. Methinks fission is fission; you're going to
> get
> the standard double-hump distribution of daughters, all radioactive.
>
> I suppose you could moderate and thermalize the neutrons, But after
> neutron
> capture (as opposed to fission) by U-238, a short decay chain ensues that
> quickly lands on Pu-239, which is long-lived and fissile. Not exactly a
> desirable result.
>
> Is there a real physicist in the house!? ;-)
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM,
> <pagnu...@htdconnect.com<mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com>> wrote:
>
>> A company formed by some SPAWAR alumni (and others), Global Energy
>> Corporation claims to have a green fission technology nearly ready for
>> testing in smaller markets -
>>
>> GUAM POWER AUTHORITY EXPLORES NUCLEAR POWER
>> Next generation facilities could reduce power costs
>> http://pidp.eastwestcenter.org/pireport/2012/February/02-13-02.htm
>>
>> Virginia firm offers nuclear energy
>>
>> http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/46996-virginia-firm-offers-nuclear-energy.php
>>
>> (Company website) http://www.globalenergycorporation.net/
>>
>> A possibly relevant ICCF-17 paper -
>> "It's not Low Energy - But it is Nuclear" - Pamela A. Mosier-Boss
>>
>> http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Mosier-Boss-Its-Not-Low-Energy-Paper.pdf
>>
>> My interpretation is that they expect to use LENR to generate relatively
>> low-energy neutrons to initiate fission chains starting with U-238 and
>> terminating in fairly harmless wastes. To me, it seems similar to the
>> Thorium reactor approach.
>>
>> Their adviser list seems impressive. Any opinions?
>>
>> - Lou Pagnucco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
