This is interesting, and we should encourage Chuck to replicate his finding
in the modern context - using Celani's experiment as a guide, and with
datalogging. It is too simple not to pursue, but anyone trying it should be
aware that graphite electrodes will produce excess heat on their own
(chemically) by first reducing and then oxidizing the carbon if enough
voltage is present. See:

But since Chuck says that the heating effect ONLY happened with the coin,
and not with other electrodes and at low voltage - then that "lack of" is
exactly the factor which makes this anecdote interesting. Using the nickel
coin as anode for electrolysis would tend to oxidize the copper to copper
oxide. This is essentially what Celani does, with heat treatment of
Constantan. Coincidence?

However, in electrolysis - copper oxidation would tend to electrically
insulate the anode skin so that it would not pass as much current. The fact
that the anode got very hot would at first seem to be a function of
oxidation, except that again, this would not explain why his copper anode
did not do the same. IOW- the mundane discovery of possible electrode redox
"contributions" may not explain-away a potential thermal anomaly, assuming
that one exists.

Taken at face value, then - there could be a valid and very basic LENR
anomaly here, but like so many anecdotes of this kind - which were not
carefully documented at the time, it impossible for us to be sure in

If you are listening, Chuck - let me encourage you to try to recreate your
experiment while documenting the power-in and temperature rise in the
liquid, as you did before but using datalogging and better technique.
Serendipity lives! You could have stumbled onto something.

The borax could be a key in the context of the coin operating as a spillover
catalyst, but with hydrogen as opposed to deuterium. The reason that I
mention "without deuterium" is that boron-10 has always been assumed to be
the active nuclear species in boron, due to its extraordinary neutron
cross-section. There would be no neutron here, unless it is "virtual".

Boron-11 has a tiny neutron cross-section; instead, it is neutron heavy,
which could indicate some degree of Coulomb shielding for an approaching
proton. However, that reaction would not account for the anode heat - as it
would be deposited in the liquid if the boron was the locus.

So the further advice for a better technique is to position one thermocouple
on the anode, and another in the electrolyte, in order to determine exactly
where the excess heat is occurring, if you can reproduce the effect.

... but cough, cough: "If I had a nickel for every time"...


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan J Fletcher 

>"If I had a nickel for every time" ...
>So ... with that caveat in mind, here's a cheap tip about what to do with
>another cheap tip - all those Buffalo coins you've been saving for the
>... IOW - there is a ready source of Romanowski alloy for Celani type
>reactions in your pocket, or center console, as we speak.
>The U.S. nickel has been a cupronickel since 1913 and the composition is
>rather similar to Constantan:  75% copper 25% nickel with trace amounts of
>manganese. Romanowski would approve.

Last year I had a private email from Charles (Chuck) Sites --- who 
has given me permission to post :

  I was reading Vortex-L and followed your link.  I'm an old cold fusion guy
but pretty much a lurker.  I found your article on Rossi's E-Cat to be very

Here is a story about CF, from 1984 with Pons and Flieshman
announced their discovery,  I was a young excited physics student, and
immediately want to test the concept of CF.  I didn't have palladium, nor
deuterium.  So I was looking for an alternative.   I was thinking, Boron has
very large cross section (Q factor) and B11 could easily cold fuse given the
right  circumstances.   So looking at what I had, what would be a good
of Ni? Not knowing it's metal makeup I choose an American nickel 5-cent
(75 percent copper, 25 percent Ni) This was the Anode.  A source of Boron,
would be Borax (Na2B4.10H2O).  The cathode, I used graphite.   This was
up to a 65 Watt 5 Volt supply from an IBM PC. To my surprise, the Nickel got
extraordinarily hot.   Too hot to touch, and I melted several plastic p tree
dish before changing to jars.   I was always able to bring pint of water to
80C after running for about 8 hours.

Other metals used for the Anode, showed no indications of even being warm.
(Steel, Aluminum, Copper, Zinc).  So a US 5 cent piece gave great results.
I even had a Geiger counter go off once, but it may have been a cosmic ray.
Given that, I could never really understand how this Nickel got hot without
radiation.  I could never get a theory as to how it worked either, in spite
the fact that the experiment is very repeatable.

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