Thanks, Axil LeClair is making testable claims. He certainly sounds sincere. Hopefully, some labs will try to replicate his results soon.
If it turns out his results are correct, I wonder whether the observed neutron and gamma emissions will be as large as expected given the reported levels of transmutations. I also wonder whether he might be adopting the Casimir-effect theory and dismissing plasma/plasmon explanations too quickly, since (I think) cavitation is accompanied by coherent electron/proton plasma currents. -- Lou Pagnucco Axil wrote: > http://smartscarecrow.com/2012/09/presentation-by-mark-leclair-of-nanospire/ > > The LeClair talk is up on the smartscarecrow site and starts at about > 30:23 > in. > > > > Axil > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From this recent presentation, I have gained new insight into what >> motivates LeClair to spend so much time on his fusion/water crystal >> research. This knowledge that he gains in this area is central to the >> success of his cavatation business. >> >> LeClairs business model is built around ultra-high nano-precision based >> cavitation cutting. >> >> He saw that in many cases, there was an unknown factor in cavatation >> that >> caused unwanted randomized cutting going on. He could not explain it nor >> could he control it. >> >> Slide 17 shows some of the random results that led him to look into this >> problem. He saw both circular and straight grooving and strange tracks >> that >> he could not explain so he set out to find what was causing this >> unexplained behavior coming from his cavatation procedures. >> >> So that is how he came to find water crystals. >> >> Once he realized that these crystals were the causitive factor that was >> cutting material, he was able to come up with a mathematical model that >> closely predicted how cavatation cut most types of material. The >> existing >> model was an order of magnitude inaccurate in predicting cavatation >> erosion. >> >> This model is very valuable commercially and is closely held by >> Nanospire. >> >> LeClair also realized that the type of transmutation that was going on >> in >> cavatation could have massive military implications. He took it onto >> himself as a duty to humanity to characterize this threat to nuclear >> controls. >> >> This analysis included the formation of a model of the transmutation >> process. >> >> He informed the relevant authorities and they thanked him. >> >> From looking at slide 29, the bomb material U233, 235, and Pu239 at >> first >> glance look like to me that they are all denatured with even numbered >> isotopes which would require difficult isotopic separation procedures to >> purify them to bomb grade material. >> >> In closing, LeClair is an outcast among outcasts. I have noticed that >> many >> fringe groups show the same intolerance for new ideas that they >> themselves >> are subjected to. I have come to realize this propensity to intellectual >> intolerance is inherent in human nature; I myself suffer from it. I have >> accepted this behavior as part of the human condition. But close >> mindedness does very much slow our acquisition of new knowledge making >> our >> learning processes painfully slow. >> >> >> >> >> Cheers: Axil >> >> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax >> <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Mark LeClair has a fantastic story to tell. It should be recognized >>> that >>> very little of this story has been confirmed, yet some of it should be >>> rather easy to confirm. I haven't listened to the show, but did review >>> the >>> slides. >>> >>> What I can tell, clearly, is that LeClair is theorizing way beyond what >>> he has evidence for. First things first. >>> >>> He has expertize in cavitation. So it is reasonable that he might find >>> a >>> way to create bubble fusion. Bubble fusion is hot fusion. >>> >>> In slide 39, he presents his work as related to CF/LENR, but he >>> includes >>> bubble fusion. >>> >>> Cavitation Fusion in Other LENR Devices >>>> Ultrasonics/Sonofusion:, Stringham, Impulse Devices >>>> Pons-Fleischmann Cells, Taleyarkhan, JET >>>> Cavitating Rotor-Stators: Griggs Hydrosonic Pump (Hydrodynamics, >>>> Inc.), >>>> Potopov, Energetics, Inc. >>>> Brillouin? Defkalion? Rossi? >>>> >>> >>> It's well-known and not controversial: CF/LENR isn't hot fusion. It >>> does >>> not produce neutrons, except possibly in very small quantities through >>> rare >>> branches or secondary reactions. Bubble fusion is hot fusion. >>> Talyarkhan's >>> work involved a claim of detecting bubble fusion through the emission >>> of >>> neutrons. >>> >>> Bubble fusion allegedly works through the generation of very high >>> temperatures. If neutrons are generated, this is certainly hot fusion, >>> to >>> distinguish it from cold fusion. >>> >>> By lumping all those approaches together, LeClair demonstrates that he >>> doesn't understand cold fusion at all. He claimed massive radiation >>> poisoning, which would be from massive neutron generation. His effect, >>> if >>> he knows how to create it, and he's claimed more than one massive >>> radiation >>> event, should be easy to demonstrate, plus such a massive event would >>> leave >>> lots of traces. Material that he claimed to be transmuted was sent to >>> Dr. >>> Storms, who found nothing unusual with it. >>> >>> LeClair's work, if real, has massive military implications. They would >>> be >>> all over it, and we know that cold fusion scientists with extensive >>> military connections are aware of his claims. Nobody, other than >>> LeClair >>> and Lebid -- who is almost completely silent -- has confirmed any of >>> his >>> story, as to what indicates a massive anomaly. >>> >>> It's worse than the situation with Rossi et al. There, at least with >>> Rossi, there have been public demonstrations. We may argue that the >>> demonstrations were not conclusive, but at least they happened. >>> >>> And LeClair claims no new science. Really? ZPE self-powered flying >>> water >>> crystals, reaching relativistic velocities? No new physics? >>> >>> My point is that LeClair doesn't know what he's doing in his >>> presentations. He's off the edge. >>> >>> If what he's found is real, if he is not literally insane, the path he >>> is >>> following is to imitate someone who is crazy. >>> >>> A small demonstration device, sold with plenty of caveats, would turn >>> this completely around. It doesn't have to be commercially ready. A >>> device >>> for the investigation of the effect. But people like LeClair and Rossi >>> et >>> al don't do that. That would be "giving away" the secret. While the >>> position is understandable, it's also highly paranoid. Essentially, it >>> defines the world as not-ready-for-change. >>> >>> Because if "they" have the money and power to cheat the inventor if the >>> inventor reveals the secrets, they also have the money and power to >>> penetrate any such secret. >>> >>> LeClair might seem to have revealed the secret, but he hasn't. You >>> could >>> not replicate his work with the information in the slide show. All that >>> you >>> could do is to try to explore cavitation, which plenty of people have >>> been >>> doing. >>> >>> At 11:02 PM 9/20/2012, Axil Axil wrote: >>> >>> <http://smartscarecrow.com/wp-**content/uploads/2012/09/** >>>> 092012_2020_Presentatio1.png<http://smartscarecrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/092012_2020_Presentatio1.png> >>>> >h**ttp://smartscarecrow.com/wp-**content/uploads/2012/09/** >>>> 092012_2020_Presentatio1.png<http://smartscarecrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/092012_2020_Presentatio1.png> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark LeClair presented his thesis and supporting evidence(see >>>> reference >>>> above) in a live presentation on 9/20/2012. >>>> >>>> This presentation will be available on YouTube shortly. >>>> >>>> In slide 39, mark said that the Pons-Fleischmann effect is just a very >>>> weak version of the LeClair effect. Could the water crystal be the >>>> active >>>> agent in the PF effect. >>>> >>>> >>>> If this equivalency is true, could a tradeoff between the radiation >>>> and >>>> transmutation of cavatation in the LeClair effect be made by using >>>> nickel >>>> or palladium as the target material in the cavatation reactor where >>>> proton >>>> pairs on the surface of these metals might form and thermalize the >>>> nuclear >>>> reactivity of the water crystal(slide 16)? >>>> >>>> On Slide 20, LeClair shows how a water crystal had carved a 5 foot >>>> trench in a coil of copper wire. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers: Axil >>>> >>> >>> Slide 20 doesn't show that at all. It does show a coil of copper wire, >>> more like 5 cm long than 5 feet. It shows a broken copper wire. Which >>> means? >>> >>> From LeClair's last slide: >>> >>> Cavitation reentrant jets generating the LeClair Effect are the key >>> to >>>> harnessing fusion and producing transmuted material on an industrial >>>> scale. >>>> NanoSpire leads the field in both results and theory >>>> >>> >>> In isolated, unconfirmed results, no controls, and no "harnessing" has >>> been shown. There has been no conclusive demonstration of transmuted >>> material. EDX results, without controls, are almost useless, because of >>> how >>> ubiquitous materials turn out to be when you use these sophisticated >>> methods of analysis. Anything, almost literally, is everywhere. The >>> issue >>> is shifts in quantity, and because a process can move stuff around, >>> this >>> can be tricky. "Before and after" aren't adequate, for example. >>> Electrolysis is famous for concentrating materials on the surface of >>> the >>> cathode, they can migrate from impurities anywhere in the cell. >>> >>> NanoSpires cavitation reactor generated 2900 watts of hot water >>> flow >>>> using only 840 watts of electrical input, a coefficient of performance >>>> (COP) of 3.4 >>>> >>> >>> Unconfirmed. If LeClair saw this, sure, he's excited. But he's also way >>> over-interpreting and perhaps misinterpreting his results. It does not >>> inspire confidence. >>> >>> The LeClair Effect correctly explains excess heat and transmutation >>>> seen in many LENR devices without the need for new physics, such as >>>> heavy >>>> electrons, plasmons or other proposed particles or reactions >>>> >>> >>> So, ZPE self-acceleration of an alleged new crystal form of water, to >>> relativistic velocities, is not "new physics"? LENR is reported in many >>> contexts where cavitation fusion makes no sense at all. Gas-loaded >>> nanoparticle palladium? Not to mention that LENR results, so far, don't >>> produce neutrons, and only produce transmutations in very small >>> quantities. >>> LeClair got very sick, he claims, from radiation poisoning. If he was >>> producing hot fusion, he would indeed get very sick, unless serious >>> precautions were taken. Cold fusion, no. This claim then shows that >>> LeClair >>> has no idea what he's talking about. He may have had dramatic >>> experiences, >>> but he's turning that into his being the scientific genius of the >>> century. >>> The thinking pattern isn't unfamiliar. >>> >>> The LeClair Effect produces intense fusion >>>> >>> >>> If it works, yes. Hot fusion, intense. Which is unmistakeable. And if >>> he >>> can do that with cavitation, what he's done is amazing, but more than >>> amazing. It's dangerous as hell, and the military would be all over >>> this, >>> and since it's highly likely that the military knows about the claims, >>> and >>> the military doesn't give a fig about "established theory," that he is >>> being allowed to publicize this shows a high likelihood that their own >>> investigation has shown "nothing here." >>> >>> If that's incorrect, LeClair could rather easily, if he has done what >>> he's claimed, refute it. This has been going on for, what, more than a >>> year? >>> >>> with many different substrates and most importantly, even without a >>>> substrate under the right conditions. This means that no >>>> electrochemistry, >>>> lattice-based theories (Widom-Larsen, Brillouin, others), palladium, >>>> nickel >>>> or any catalysts are required to produce fusion >>>> >>> >>> That's right. Just get stuff really, really hot, and you will get >>> fusion. >>> "Substrate" is something needed in condensed matter, and there is no >>> such >>> thing as condensed matter at fusion temperatures. That LeClair might >>> reach >>> fusion temperatures with cavitation isn't intrinsically impossible. So >>> that >>> he could create hot fusion isn't intrinsically impossible. >>> >>> But flying self-accelerated relativistic velocities for a new >>> crystalline >>> form of water? At one point I asked what the experimental basis was for >>> conclusing that. LeClair didn't answer with anything clear. >>> >>> If LeClair isn't crazy, or maybe even if he is, how about a small >>> machine >>> that demonstrates the effect? Yes, dangerous, so sold with plenty of >>> warnings. Lots of things are dangerous and can be sold. Or even a large >>> complicated machine, if that's necessary. He'd set it up, and >>> demonstrate >>> it to customers, who could observe it all, having signed an NDA (if >>> some of >>> the technology must be kept secret, covering the secret). If, using >>> this >>> machine, which can be a black box, lots of neutrons are generated, >>> that's >>> valuable all by itself, such machines are currently quite expensive. >>> >>> I'm not holding my breath. >>> >> >> >
