I suppose that readers of this list are aware of the significant work of 
Terence McKenna, one of the most thorough thinkers the Americans ever had.

Now TMK was very aware of the distinction, Whitehead made of 'stubborn reality' 
versus belief-based sub-reality.

To some degree 'reality' is a matter of choice.
Ok?
But beware the consequences, as GWBush who claimed to be a 'reality-creator' , 
experienced.
A very costly issue if you bet on the wrong horse (imagined 'reality').
Not only for GWB, but society at large.

If anyone needs more cold water over his head, I am ready to provide it.
Presupposing a minimum of intellectual sophistication.


Guenter



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Re: [Vo]:Show me the beef

Guenter Wildgruber
Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:43:04 -0700

This sort of message  I would expect from american smokers of shit.
Thank You for displaying that to the world at large.

Guenter




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Gesendet: 22:26 Samstag, 22.September 2012
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A lesson for all the naysayers, wind bags, journalist wan-a-bees, hop
heads,
dreamers and procastinators:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VJG8-9izQ&feature=player_embedded#t=156s

How about cleaning up Vortex to allow easier selection of
intellectional
discourse and experimental
attempts from the foul, odoriferous and useless manure found here
repetitiously
hundreds of times by the same posters.

Bark Bark

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RE: [Vo]:Rossi conspiracy. Part III

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:16:06 -0700
I don't know if Guenter Wildgruber is *his* real name, but
Mark_-ZeroPoint most certainly is not a real name. But I'll happily
apologize if it is.

Mark, here, speculates on something, along with SVJ, about Guenter's
mail, that makes some crazy assumptions.

If you hit a reply to an actual "vortex-l" post, what happens to the
reply depends on, not only the list settings, but also your own email
program's settings. It has little or nothing to do with the original
email. If the mail is echoed through the list, it will have a Reply-to
header supplied by the list.

If you look at the headers from his mails, they look quite like headers
from other mails.

However, how do we know that a mail is from the vortex list? If you
only rely upon the [Vo] in the header, you could be easily misled.

Some people do send mails to both the list and the individual. That
could easily be done by the user who originates the mail. A mail that
was cc'd to the individual, as well as sent to to the list, if the
individual replies to it, will behave exactly as described.

I don't see a cc in Guenter's mails to the list, but he might be
bcc'ing the private emails of some. That would produce the same effect
for those people. Again, people might do this to suppress further cc's
being sent, but to notify an individual that a mail has been sent to
the list.

Embarrassing, messages like this, assuming a "nefarious reason" for
something quite ordinary, don't you think?

None of this has any bearing on the cogency of the alleged "Rossi
conspiracy." As with most Matters Rossi, we don't have enough
information to do more than flap the meaning-making machine, which can
churn out endless speculations. I think Guenter was just having fun. He
seems to have some level of grasp of the situation, more than can be
said for many others.

At 12:57 PM 7/14/2012, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:

    SVJ wrote:

     While Im at it, I think Gunter might turn out to be an agent too
- with his own personal agenda. I base this suspicion of mine on the
fact that whenever I hit the reply button from one of Gunters vortex-l
posts my replies are automatically sent to Gunters personal email
address, not Vortex. I have come to the disquieting conclusion that
this is a deliberate act of sabotage on Gunters part, perhaps to
siphon off information from entering the general public domain. You
certainly have to admit the fact that inserting ones personal email
address in lieu of vortex-l may be due to a highly suspicious agenda!
;-)

    I think youre onto something, Steven!


     In another rambling post, Guenter goes on about how adept he is
with technology and wondering whether he should teach his non-techy
friends how to use an iPad, but yet, he cant even configure his email
client to ReplyTo: the proper vortex-l address… there would only seem
to be two possibilities… 1. His computer skills are what he implies,
quite adept, and thus should know how to properly configure his email
client, but doesnt for some nefarious reason; or 2. He isnt what he
says he is, in which case, it might excuse his inability to properly
configure his email client, but then he is misleading readers about his
tech-skills/knowledge.

    I think the first is the more likely one…

    -Mark

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