Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: In any event neither “4 hours” – nor “heat after death” is adequate >
4 hours far exceeds the limits of chemistry with this device, so it is adequate. If there were 100 kg of potential chemical fuel and oxidizer in the machine of course it would not be adequate. The only meaningful criterion is whether the device can be run on chemical fuel for the duration of the test. That is, chemical fuel actually present in the machine. "Heat after death" simply means self-sustaining operation. It is the same thing exactly, just as "cold fusion" is the same as "LENR." It is jargon invented by Fleischmann. I use the expression only because that is the search term you need to find papers in the literature with a Google search. (Incidentally, the Google search at LENR-CANR.org is limited to papers and HTML screens within that web site.) > – these are thermal excursion which are far from self-sustaining. > They are self-sustaining by definition. The cooling curves show that the device would reach room temperature in a half-hour. > Of course, there is no real definition for what this parameter needs to be > . . . > Yes, there is. The device has to exceed the limits of chemistry by a large margin. This definition was first published by Fleischmann. > – but in the context of a reactor having significant thermal insulation - > at least 24 hours and probably a week would be needed to please most > observers. > It would not "please" the skeptics, but in any case this criterion is arbitrary and meaningless. All you have to do is show the cooling curve with no input power and no anomalous power. With the Rossi device, anyone can see it cools down to room temperature in 30 minutes or so. It remained quite hot for 4 hours, assuming there were no dishonest tricks. Also, no device without input -- chemical or anomalous input -- can heat up. The temperature always falls monotonically. If you suspect there were dishonest tricks, you should ignore this data. If you think that Flesichmann, McKubre, Mizuno and everyone else who has reported heat after death with Pd or Ni are dishonest, you should ignore this entire field. - Jed
