On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:56 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't understand and why so many people are suprised that to gain energy > yo need to feed a little (less). > > It is classic for usual energy that you give energy first to settle the good > condition of energy production. > It is the case for wood in a barbecue... you need first to pyrolyze it, then > heat it until it can burn... it is only if you give good thermal insulation > (in a barbecue) that after initial lighting, it can self sustain. and > sometime, like with "flash in the pan" it can kill the container because of > positive feedback. In a barbecue, like in a nuclear fission reactor, there > are negative feedback that allow control
Indeed, even the action of replenishing coal requires some energy to move the coal into place so that the barbecue remains hot. Even a system which violates CoE will tap the world outside the system for its material continuance, and therefore will never be closed system of energy relations. Harry > Celani reactor is as if you were making calorimetry in a piece of wood under > a bunzen gaz burner... > > about electricity, it is simply an energy very easy to control, over time > and space... > moreover from Celani, Defkalion and Brillouin you can notice that electric > excitation is more efficient than thermal... > > it is sure that it would be nice to have a looped reactor with turbine > feeding the input, but it seems that on one side you have researchers and > engineers who have not yet efficient enough reactors. > and on another side you have people having working reactors, and not wanting > to convince anybody else their partners, before it is publicly sold. > > For me the only one that can do that experiment is Celani and his > replicators, assuming he continue to be "open" when he owns the greatest > invention since wood fire and domesticated horse. > > As with all industrial of the beginning of CF (Toyota, Mitsubishi...) LENR > is cursed by it's great potential value, that push successful results to be > hidden... Making skeptics convinced that nothing work (which leads to > similar results- provided you eliminate the numerous not so blatant > experimental results). > > vicious circle.

