I have a friend, very smart guy, who I've been working on over time with occasional CF/LENR tidbits and arguments. Lately he wrote this, and gave me permission to send it along.
- - - So, let's identify all the groups involved here, from the seekers to the suckers. :-) We have the seekers, people like Jeff who think this just might be real, more likely than not that LENR can be used for some good, but are aware of all the hucksters out there. We have the hopefuls, like me, that hope it can be found but don't have a whole lot of faith, will be tickled to death (by a large neutron beam) if it is found to be possible. We have the sloppy scientists who want it to be true but are so sloppy in their work they can't tell, but claim they have actually done it and are open about how. Some want investors, some don't. Some scientists can't reproduce the results, other sloppy scientists can sort of on occasion tend to kinda verify the results. We have the hucksters (used to sell water powered cars) who claim to be able to do it, but always leave out some details so no one can actually try to reproduce their results. They want investors! They almost exclusively have something they are putting energy into and claim to be getting more out (says the math). We have the naysayer scientists who just know it isn't possible, and dismiss anything without such inspection, just as I wouldn't spend too much time looking over a new perpetual motion machine. Can't be done, don't waste anyone's time. We may have the evil forces of the current energy cartel that want us to buy their gasoline and coal, the same guys that bought and buried the 150 MPG carburetor. They want no discussion And last, we may have the good scientists that really have found how to do this, and are fighting their way through all the "bad press" the sloppies and the hucksters create. Can't speak in public forums because they have been tarred with the same brush used on the hucksters. I think that's it? Who do you think shuts down discussions -- the naysayers or the evil forces? Do you think they even go so far as to spawn hucksters to help discredit the whole field? - - - Jeff
