It is fairly safe to assume that the convolution of the surface areas is dramatic, but I am assuming that this will be true for both types of systems. I look at Celani's surface and mentally translate it to Rossi's powder surfaces. We do not know what process Rossi uses with his powder and he tends to keep that information private. I am not confident that I know much more about the Celani wire surface since this parameter would be of commercial value and will likely be patented.
If the active regions are significantly smaller than the powder sizes, then it seems likely that we would be able to make a translation. I suspect that Celani would have much better control of the deposits placed upon his wire since it is easier to get to all of the areas involved. It might even be advantageous to produce powder particles that are closer to the wire size of Celani which would produce power in between the two systems. These larger spheroids might be easier to plate and test while delivering a level of power that is above the wire noise level. Once an ideal plating process is determined, it would be time to translate the powder particle sizes downward to the desired degree. After the translation phase is completed, any large discrepancy in output performance could be scientifically analyzed to obtain an explanation. This type of process seems like it should allow us to rapidly find the best solution. This hypothesis is based upon the belief that heat is the driving force behind the emission of excess power. If the DC current is a major factor due to magnetic field effects or some strange superconductivity effect then it will not be accurate. The fact that a quick translation from Celani to Rossi power is within the ballpark of matching suggests that heat is the main factor. I hope that this line of reasoning receives an adequate level of discussion since it looks very promising. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:45 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Method of LENR Material Comparison David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: I am sure you are correct about the particles being irregular in shape. The surface area is mainly what I am interested in and spheres of the average size would be on the low side, but not necessarily by much. Not sure about that. Those particles can be convoluted. The wires are also convoluted. After Celani treats them, they are full of holes, like Swiss cheese. I suppose it would be difficult to estimate how much surface area there is, taking into account the inside surface of those holes. After a while it resembles Mandelbrot's famous question "how long is the coast of Britain?" The answer is light-years long if you measure it on a small enough scale. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Long_Is_the_Coast_of_Britain%3F_Statistical_Self-Similarity_and_Fractional_Dimension I think that it is interesting that a quick calculation of the power output of a roughly Rossi sized collection of particles came within the ballpark of his claims using information obtained from Celani's experiment. That is interesting. I have felt for some time that Rossi may not have such a huge breakthrough. He might just have a lot of powder, with a lot of surface area. Arata and the others in Japan are using a tiny amount of powder. If they were to use more they might get Rossi-like results. - Jed
