Dear Jones, a very interesting idea re nickel minnes and isotopic anomalies.Recently I have translated an well written paper about Oklo- about Paul Kuroda the nuclear chemist who has predicted Oklo. Let's hope that Defkailon will offer us a kind of isotopic symphony when the will work full steam at Vancouver.This will be an essential contribution to understanding how useful CF works.. Peter
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > Peter,**** > > ** ** > > There is a provocative analogy of LENR to fission (in the context of the > Oklo natural fission site):**** > > ** ** > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor**** > > ** ** > > But it is non-obvious, and yet it suggests that there could indeed be a > “natural LENR” on Earth. **** > > ** ** > > Don’t laugh – I am completely serious. Perhaps you were a bit too timid to > go there J**** > > ** ** > > If you take the metaphor of Oklo even further, the place on earth where > one would look for a similar anomaly is nickel mines. What would one look > for? That part is simple: isotope anomalies. **** > > ** ** > > This assumes that nickel LENR is a novel reaction with hydrogen that > results in isotopic changes. There are other possibilities to look for – > but for now, let’s stick with this one.**** > > ** ** > > As fate would have it – in doing a cursory search (Bing, instead of > Google, nowadays) it turns out that the nickel in most meteorites is > “neutron-poor” isotopically compared to natural nickel on earth. However, > nickel mines on earth usually have, as their source of rich ore – large and > ancient meteorite impact sites. Sudbury in Ontario is a case in point. Yet > the nickel there is NOT neutron poor.**** > > ** ** > > The authors in the paper below make an assumption the earth’s nickel is > the baseline standard for isotope distribution. However, if we start from a > different premise and assume that millions of years ago, earthly nickel > began to slowly change isotopically, due to hydrogen interaction ala LENR > then you come to a surprising conclusion. BTW - hydrogen can come from > either H2O seepage in mines or from the solar wind. **** > > ** ** > > http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2012/pdf/2354.pdf**** > > ** ** > > Could earthly nickel have changed slight over the millennia … and > meteorites we find from later date actually be the correct baseline? Maybe, > but not an ounce of proof for that contention so far – however, the > possibility cannot be ignored. That specific scenario for heavier nickel > would be that over time, the neutron rich isotopes are transmuted via > “virtual neutrons” on earth, but in a novel reaction that does not change > the z (to copper, although some of the time it does).**** > > ** ** > > Virtual neutrons, in this case, are the result of fractional hydrogen f/H > – which is hydrogen going into a deeply redundant ground state where it > becomes “energy poor” and then finally is adsorbed as a virtual neutron, > not a proton (as in W-L). An example would be 60Ni -> 61Ni but in the sense > of a novel reaction, which goes no further. No subsequent beta decay.**** > > ** ** > > Of course, the bulk of neutron changes which we know about do involve a > later beta decay, but in this case, the f/H probably arrives from the solar > wind where it is already “energy-depleted” having given up EUV energy in > the solar corona in the way that Randell Mills has suggested.**** > > ** ** > > Jones**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Peter Gluck **** > > ** ** > > "Is cold fusion natural?**** > > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/12/is-cold-fusion-natural-essay-in.html > **** > > ** ** > > Actually who will care when it will be a genuine energy **** > > source? Natural is very popular, cold fusion is only for us**** > > but perhaps the question(s) will do some good for solving some**** > > problems.**** > > Peter**** > > ** ** > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck**** > > Cluj, Romania**** > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com**** > > ** ** > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

