Certain individuals in this forum; most notably the most persistent violators, 
the most chronic posters of off-topic posts; arrogantly claim that there is "no 
harm" in off-topic posts.

Nothing could be more selfish and more delusional.  Of Course, there is harm 
and we are seeing it.

Vortex-L used to be a premier place for the advancement of our knowledge in 
Cold Fusion bleeding edge ideas.  Lately, the gang of violators and bullies and 
self-proclaimed experts have hijacked this forum with their "gabbing with 
friends" and "making up the rules as we go".  They posts irrelevant topics left 
and right with impunity as they think this place is a social club they can use 
anyway they please.

Even before I joined, certain distinguished individuals have already expressed 
the need to keep off-topic posts to Vortex-B.  I am not the first nor the only 
one to complain about this problem.   Why don't these chronic violators go to 
Vortex-B and gab with friends there.  Why hijack and destroy this fine premier 
site with their useless noise and bandwidth.  What level of arrogance and 
selfishness is that?  They have a perfectly funtional site in Vortex-B for 
their social club.  Why inundate Vortex-L with nonesensical gabbing. Now, we 
have clearly seen the result of this incessant off-topic posts.  These 
distinguished individuals I am talking about no longer posts here or have 
significantly lowered their participation.  I would have wanted to hear many of 
their bleeding edge ideas more.  Vortex-L has suffered a lost of great men with 
great ideas because of the selfishness of a few immature individuals.  They 
gather like jackals and only feel stong in a group like bullies.

Some claim that I am the one "trolling" here.  But they conveniently ignore 
that I have said and have said it for a year now, that I will stop posting 
off-topic posts if these people would moderate their incessant useless gabbing. 
 But, like little immature children, they want what they want and increase 
their violation every time I call for moderation.  I only do what I do (posting 
off-topic posts) to highlight the problem.  Not only are off-topic posts 
harmful to the usefulness of Vortex-L; they also engender great conflict and 
fights.  I sincerely do not want Vortex-L to devolve into a social club for 
gabbing or for fighting.  Bill has created Vortex-B for that.  Why don't these 
violators go there to gab?

I have already said; I WILL STOP WHEN IT STOPS.    

My friends, whether or not you like my views, you must agree that incessant 
off-topic posts are harmful to Vortex-L.  I believe Bill recognized that when 
he created Vortex-B.  Why can't these babies recognize the problem their 
spoiled attitudes are creating.

My friends, whether or not you like my views, I promise you in the sight of God 
that I do not have any agenda here.  Neither Political, Social, Religious nor 
Personal.  All I want is for Vortex-L to retrun to its prior glory and 
usefulness.  What's wrong with this plea, that certain individual would find it 
necessary to insult me everytime I make this plea.





BTW, Jed has his own site.  Why doesn't he create a forum there to "gab with 
friends".  People already go there to download his files, so it would be an 
easy matter for people interested in Cold Fusion to join his forum.  Let him 
create his forum and turn it into a social club.  Why does he and his minions 
insists on destroying Vortex-L.




Jojo



PS.  Admitedly, some off-topic posts are borderline non-off-topic.  I am not 
talking about those. 

My friends, I will continue to highlight this problem until these chronic 
violators recognize the severe consequence of their childish pranks.

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