You are asking very good questions.  I have given this a little thought over 
the years and there are certain things that seem likely to happen.  It has been 
proven that a gravity field causes time to dilate.  A very large field will 
cause it to dilate a lot.  A black hole has an extremely large gravitational 
field around it due to the enormous mass.  This might explain why time for one 
on board a spaceship approaching the event horizon slows down from an observer 
outside of the field and eventually comes to a complete stop.


This is strange indeed.  Time actually coming to a standstill is difficult to 
put ones arms around.  The implication is that the guy on board that ship does 
not age at all as far as we are concerned.  A million years could go by for us 
and he would not seem to change.  This is a way to travel into our future 
provided you are not annihilated by the black hole.  If you escape the hole, 
then you get a look at working ECATS! LOL!  I sure hope that they are available 
for sell before a million years goes by.


As I was speculating before, I think that the amount of red shift that occurs 
is directly in proportion to the amount of time dilation for the fellow.  
Remember his heart beats at a rate that is a fraction of the cycles of the time 
measuring laser and it seems logical that we observe both changing by the same 
percentage.   The implication is that every method of time keeping is similarly 
effected by the gravity field present near the black hole boundary.  We need to 
explore this concept and determine whether or not it makes sense.


I understand that we should expect that the space guy is accelerating toward 
the black hole and from his perspective it must be true since he is within a 
gravitational field.  The only way out of this dilemma is if he indeed does 
continue forward until he becomes dissociated into atoms or whatever near the 
actual surface of the black hole.  This probably happens.  But, from our far 
off perspective it is in an infinite number of years into the future.  That is 
another reason that time dilation must occur.  We do not live long enough to 
see him hit the hole dead on.  It never happens during the age of the universe 
unless some other mechanism is at work that we are unaware of.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>; vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Dec 26, 2012 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]:Question About Event Horizon


At 05:56 PM 12/26/2012, Craig wrote:
>Isn't it a calculated location? Isn't it the radius from the center 
>of the black hole at which a theoretical object at a great distance 
>would reach the speed of light when falling into the black hole from 
>its gravity?

No. Mass doesn't ever reach the speed of light. Light only travels at 
the speed of light....

I'm puzzled here.

In fact, I'm seriously starting to smell a rat.

There is one somewhere around here, and I don't know if it's only in 
my thinking, or in how event horizons and the like are being explained.

The event horizon is being described as the boundary around a black 
hole where the gravity is so intense that light cannot travel away 
from the hole at all.

Yet it's also being stated that the event horizon is generally 
between the observer and the singularity, that if you cross the event 
horizon, the singularity is still in front of you.

I'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my mind about both ideas at the same time.

It's also being said that a spaceship approaching the event horizon 
from an observer's direction would appear to slow down, and redshift, 
until it disappears. The slowing down, why? The ship is actually, as 
it approaches the horizon, accelerating. Light leaving it, before it 
reaches the horizon, will be redshifted, but that light will still 
travel at the speed of light. Why would the ship appear to slow down? 


 

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