No, I am suggesting that you count the facts written in the Bible that have found to be true. Then count the facts found to be false and then count the facts that have not be found true or found false yet. If the number of facts that have found to be true is 51% or greater, then the Bible has satisfied the principle of preponderance of evidence and should be treated as a verified document, and a reliable witness.

Shall we do this?

To be fair, I will count the facts found to be true, you count the facts that have been found to false and the facts found to be neither true nor false.



Jojo



----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig" <cchayniepub...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age


Jaro, are you suggesting that we meet here, in this forum, and vote as
to whether you have presented a 'preponderance of evidence' that your
assertions are true? And if we vote 'no', will you then agree that the
Bible has not been proven to be true, and is considered, therefore, to
be false?

Craig

On 01/01/2013 02:58 PM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Aha, but there is this concept of "Preponderance of Evidence".  While
this is a legal concept, we can nevertheless apply its principles in
our discussion.

Basically, what Preponderance of Evidence says is that if one side can
present a preponderance of evidence to support his side, what he is
saying may be considered true.  If one side can present 51% evidence,
his argument may be construed as true.  This is the standard of
Preponderance of Evidence.  While absolute 100% certainty may not be
reached, it is acceptable to acknowledge its truth based on the amount
of evidence one has supplied.  Preponderance of Evidence is a legal
standard that a Judge in a civil case may use to decide a case.  If it
is acceptable in our legal system, I submit to you that it should be
acceptable in our discussion.

We can apply the standard of Preponderance of Evidence when we
evaluate the integrity of the Bible.  Has the Bible stated facts that
can be proven and does that constitute 51%.  If so, the Bible may be
considered a verified and reliable source in our legal system.  In
other words, it is considered a reliable witness.

Has the Bible satisfied the Preponderance of Evidence criteria.  I
submit to you that it has.  There are thousands of scientific,
historical, archeological, literary, etc facts that can be and has
been verified.  Based on that, we can not legally say that the Bible
is an "unverified" source. By law, it is considered a verified source
by virtue of Preponderance of Evidence.


Jojo





----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig" <cchayniepub...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] Moon God, Dozens of wives, and marriageable age


On 01/01/2013 11:59 AM, Jojo Jaro wrote:
But this is exactly where you're wrong.  You can in fact verify the
Bible. It's very simple. find one, just one fact that has been
categorically found to be false.  This one erroneous fact alone would
sink the entire credibility of the Bible.

With regard to epistemology, it's not up to anyone to disprove a source.
Rather, it's up to the proponent of an idea to PROVE his assertions.
There is nothing to disprove here.

You can't take a source and claim that all the wild assertions in it are
true, just because you can't find anything wrong with it. I can write a
book about life on Pluto, and you won't be able to prove it wrong.

Craig






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