I could run some low power electrolysis for a day or two in some diluted
hydrochloric acid.  Think that would do the trick?  Or do you have another
idea for the acid?


On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>  Hydrogen loading will surely be necessary at some level, but can
> possibly be accommodated by combination of low pH electrolyte, not so low
> as to dissolve the wires… or preferably by preloading etched wires for a
> day under H2 pressure and modest heat, or even the simplest expedient which
> would be during a slow electro-etching in weak acid- with the wires as
> cathodes. The last would be the easiest to try for anyone without H2.****
>
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>
> *From:* Jack Cole ****
>
> ** **
>
> That should be easy enough to carry out.  I will order some constantan and
> some more nitinol.****
>
>  ****
>
> Are you thinking that the hydrogen loading may be unnecessary?****
>
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> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:*
> ***
>
> Jack, ****
>
> If anomalous cooling in Nitinol (putative) is of any interest - here is
> about the simplest experiment which can tell an experimenter something
> worth knowing. I’ve not done it, but it is now on my list.****
>
> It would be to compare the relative temperature rise using simple
> resistance heating of a known mass of electrolyte and identical watt-hours
> of input - using two wires of similar resistance, one of which is suspected
> to cool anomalously (Nitinol) and the other to heat anomalously (Constantan
> or Monel).  ****
>
> No water-splitting or phase-change here to confuse things, just simple
> heating of the same mass of water in otherwise identical runs - and logging
> temperature rise over time with a precision thermometer - of each wire. My
> guess is that Nitinol will supply slightly less heat to the water than
> Constantan for the same electrical input. But this is based on Ahern’s
> results with specialty nano-powder, so the expectation may not apply. Both
> wires should be etched to provide Casimir porosity.****
>
> In checking just now - the electrical resistivity of Constantan and
> Nitinol are not the same, but close enough to get identical resistance in
> two sample test wires. IOW - by varying the length of wires (or gauge or
> both) one can get the same resistance. By using the same wetted surface
> area with wires of different lengths, fairly accurate comparative results
> should be possible even though there is slightly more constantan by length,
> since the wetted area is the same. ****
>
> The results would not be a perfect indicator of an anomaly between the two
> types of nickel alloy - but could inspire enough confidence to move onto a
> more accurate (and expensive) technique.****
>
> *From:* Jack Cole  ****
>
> Jones, ****
>
> I'm still working the kinks out of the experimental procedures.  At first
> glance, the behavior doesn't appear to be different than the nickel and
> tungsten.   ****
>
> What I am working on now is a three electrode system.  One is made out of
> nitinol, and I'm using this as a heating element only.  Another is made out
> of nitinol of the same length as the one used for the heating element.  The
> third is made from stainless steel.****
>
> With the Android control system, I am running DC electrolysis for 9
> seconds (16 watts) and then pulse 80-90 watts of 94khz AC (100
> milliseconds) through either the heating element or axially through the
> cathode. ****
>
> What you end up with is a comparison of runs of pulsing the AC through the
> cathode vs. pulsing it through the nitinol used as a heating element.  I
> have to make a new cathode and heating element and start over making
> certain the impendance is matched for both.  The idea is that you have one
> nitinol wire loaded with hydrogen and one that is not loaded with hydrogen.
>  I'm thinking the HFAC current may trigger LENR in the hydrogen loaded
> cathode but not in the heating element. ****
>
> I thought the nitinol is intriguing for the reasons you noted (titanium
> and nickel being used in past experiments) and its shape changing when
> heated.  I think the next thing to try will be a similar setup using a
> combination of tungsten and nitinol paired together.  Then we'll be running
> with 3 materials that have shown results from other researchers.****
>
>  ****
>
> Also, thank you for the thoughts on endotherm possibilities.  I'll keep
> that in mind if I see something anomalous.****
>
>  ****
>
> Jack****
>
>  ****
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:*
> ***
>
> Jack,****
>
> Nitinol is a interesting choice since both nickel and titanium are proton
> conductors with a history of positive results in LENR - and the wire is
> commonly available. Plus there is the strange “memory” effect (which could
> be utilized for audible resonance). ****
>
> It appears from your other pages that you’ve done simple calorimetry to
> see if there is evidence of thermal gain using nickel, tungsten etc. Even
> though those results were apparently inconclusive, does Nitinol appear to
> give markedly different results from the others? ****
>
> I said “different” instead of better - since it should be mentioned that
> in Ahern’s testing for EPRI there was another anomaly – cooling. IIRC it
> was an alloy of nickel and titanium (embedded in zirconia) which provided
> the appearance of endotherm – the mysterious disappearance of input energy.
> It might help to do an acid etch of the wire as the endotherm is associated
> with nano-porosity (and Casimir – which can be both an attractive force or
> repellent - depending on geometry changes)****
>
> If you were seeking anomalous endotherm, which could be equally important
> (theoretically) to gainful exotherm, the experiment would probably need
> different parameters - such as lower voltage DC and surface treatment for
> nanostructure - but it could be worth the effort. ****
>
> Adding energy to achieve a lower thermal state may seem to be
> counterproductive at first glance, but perhaps it is the one detail that
> will make everything understandable. ****
>
> There was a bit of evidence that the quantumheat.org folks saw a bit of
> endotherm and were trying to explain it way – rather than to deal with it
> as part of the package of Ni-H oddities.****
>
> Jones****
>
> *From:* Jack Cole ****
>
> I've been conducting a new series of electrolysis experiments with Nitinol
> (56% nickel/44% titanium).  I did a little video demonstrating nitinol's
> effect of contracting when heated while running an electrolysis experiment.
>  I'm using KOH as the electrolyte. ****
>
> May be of interest to some here.  Seems to me that this alloy may be
> promising for LENR. ****
>
>
> http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2013/01/23/automated-android-electrolysis-system-nitinol-demonstration/
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Best regards,****
>
> Jack****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
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