On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Craig <[email protected]> wrote:

 But all costs need to be included in the product.
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If externalities were included in the price of things like petroleum use, I
think you might see a dramatic change in consumer and industrial use of
such resources.  But companies, some of whom consciously rely upon
important externalities being borne by society, and the individuals they
hoodwink into believing them, will fight tooth and nail to prevent such
pricing schemes.  I am doubtful there will be the political will to set up
a US carbon market anytime soon, for instance.  People will argue that
consumers cannot afford the additional hit to their pocket books.  I think
this misses the point, since they're already bearing the price in other,
less obvious ways, including monetarily.

Often I am not persuaded by arguments to the effect that if you enacted
such and such legislation, it would exact a huge toll on average people.
 When WWII came along, and there was a huge industrial mobilization
underway for the war effort, it placed a great burden on the US federal
budget.  But I believe that all of that expenditure, which was no doubt
wildly inefficient and directed towards all kinds of silly things, ended up
serving as a massive stimulus, and the US did quite well economically after
that.

Eric

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