Jed and I have an agreement to disagree.
I personally don’t think that it all needs to be about proof
or commercialization. After 24 years and
many papers, I don’t think that “proof” is needed any longer. Proof is already
there for
those that wish to read the literature. Practical methods have been listed for
those
who what to do experiments. The problem
is they don’t read and never visit a working lab. How many of them ever
visited Case’s or Lett’s
or Gimpel’s or my lab??
I will leave the “prove it to me” crowd to their own
experiments and discussions. People talk
and talk about experiments and never pick up a soldering iron or bottle of
heavy water. They say do this and that
but never do anything themselves. I have done most of the experiments that I
wrote up on my own nickel- others are welcome to use their own ideas and do
the same.
I have just grown tired of doing experiments and want to
have some fun and try some applications. It would be easy to just sit and type
but I need a
change of pace for my own motivation and peace of mind. You can only turn
knobs for so long before
you yearn for something else and I only have a few years of strength left to
lift those Stainless steel vacuum chambers and such.
Laugh if you will at my attempts but I am trying and "doing
what I can, with what I have, where I am "(Roosevelt- paraphrase).
Perhaps George just wants to try an application for his own
pleasure. It is his path to choose. Be supportive and tolerant and let him
travel
it in peace.
DennisDate: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:36:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days..
hurry up
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Edmund Storms <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm complaining because any use of LENR will have to take much more into
account than this very simplified designed describes. What value does this
design have? It is a obvious engineering solution to removing heat from a
source. It does not solve the basic problem that prevents LENR from working at
all. Would you give me money to study LENR if all I provided was an idealized
heat exchanger?
I have to agree with Ed on this. I have criticized Dennis Cravens on similar
grounds; i.e., the Model A does not make the demonstration easier to understand
or more believable. If you can prove the cold fusion device produces heat, you
best do that by the simplest means, which is calorimetry. Make the best
calorimeter you can. I do not see any point to adding on a toy device.
(The "best" calorimeter might not be the most precise or expensive, by the way.)
If the toy was necessary to control the reaction then it would make sense. For
example, if heat removal is the key to stabilizing the reaction. I do not think
that is the case.
- Jed
