I doubt many people on this list have written a proposal to get
funding from a US government agency or evaluated such proposals, but I
have. Certain requirement are demanded. These in part are: the reason
why the program is important to the country , the exact way the
money will be used, and the expected result have to be shown. These
requirements are difficult to satisfy when money is requested for
LENR. No money would be given if a person provided an engineering
design based on a hypothetical energy source and then expected to
develop the energy source. The reviewers are not fools and know
exactly what is being requested and the chance of success based on the
proposal. If a person wants money, they must show that the energy
source is real and exactly how they will make it better. This is not
easy to do at the present time when proposing to study LENR.
Ed
On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:48 AM, DJ Cravens wrote:
Many think you can take a great leap from a small experiment to some
grand system. (Rossi has tried that but I am afraid it will not end
well for him.) But I don’t think it works like that. You set a goal
that is just outside what you know and what you have experience with
and then you try. You learn from the attempt and the journey. You
see things that you would not have predicted. Different people have
different equipment, different support, and different viewpoints.
Thus, they take different approaches.
I prefer to try to take only a step of a factor of 10 or so with the
LENR part but have a platform ready to take the next step if I am
successful and then scale it once more and then again. “You don't
have tosee the whole staircase, just take the first step”-- Martin
Luther King
I am not sure if George will get his grant or be successful if he
does. However, I am confident that he will learn from the attempt
itself. To ask for any more at this time is not realistic.
From: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:15:37 +0100
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for
for 10 days.. hurry up
To: [email protected]
I understand well the skepticism of many on Miley.
As far as I know Miley have no validated reactor. He has a rational
project, which can be written on the back of a Post-it. The image is
an artistic vision, which I hope is not the final engineering result.
However I deeply disagree with the cognitive dissonance that I
observe all the time on LENR. LENR is real, so it is NORMAL SCIENCE,
in a psychiatric hospital for depressive people called Western World.
It tooks 5 months with a normal team for Defkalion to make a first
reactor. I know people comfortably doubt on them, but the behavioral
evidences are clear. I'm not living in the conspiracy theorist world
where all is in doubt. I live in a human world, enclosing the
business world, where people a rationally crazy.
However the biggest reason to support this project for an ultra-
light startup is that OTHER PROJECTS ARE NO BETTER. They also have
crazy artists scheme, unproven ideas, many challenges. Some are
based on known theories, but engineers can tell you that it does not
make things work better. All have big chance to fail, yet to give
lessons.
For me the challenge of Miley is not around LENR, if he works with
good experts (in material science), but around harnessing TEG and
most of all, organizational and mass psychiatry.
Of course I assume that in such a startup he will work with a normal
engineer team, and not in a garage. Maybe I underestimated that risk.
More than success of creating that startup, I imagine that this can
put the focus on LENR and call interest on emerging business that
flourish today.
My forecast if Miley win the vote is that it will be anyway
rejected, but some more people will hear of LENR, and they will see
the facts better than the government.
I remember reading one book of the Fondation trilogy by Asimov. When
the Empire is collapsing, even a great general cannot save it,
because the intrinsic stupidity is impossible to fight, even by a
genius.
As said Defkalion recently there is no hope from governments.
I just hope to catch some interest of people at the border of the
Empire of Stupidity where I live currently.
