On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Veeder
>
>>> Astronomers refined the star's age down to about 14.5 billion years
> (which
>>> is still older than the universe), from the original data showing 16
> billion
>>> years old. In either event it is way older then the Milky Way - yet there
> it
>>> is - not too far away cosmologically speaking.
>
> I wrote:
>> Indeed, If it is really that old it should be billions of light years
>> away from our own galaxy according
>> to standard cosmology.
>
> Hold on, what am I saying? This is wrong, because a star within our
> galaxy can be older than our galaxy, since stars formed before
> galaxies. So Jones, a star as old as the universe is not a problem for
> standard cosmology.
>
>
> Harry,
>
> Although some stars formed before some galaxies, it is a bit misleading to
> generalize that "stars formed before galaxies" in a local context to the
> degree that one is a subset of the other. And in any event ... IF this star
> formed in another galaxy, as seems likely - then one might ask - where are
> the millions of other stars of that older galaxy? (the one which is older
> than ours, and in which the Methuselah star could have been a part of).
> It is a not a terrible stretch to say that out galaxy merged with an older
> galaxy and this star is the only "known" survivor ... since it is not out of
> the question, if and when we catalog all stars in ours, there may be dozens
> or hundreds of Methuselah's out there that came from that other galaxy.
>
> Where is Heinlein when we need him ...?


Jones, accroding to this

http://www.universetoday.com/21822/age-of-the-milky-way/

the age of the milky way is estimated to be 13.4  +/- 0.8 billion years (2004)

Since the ages of the universe, the milkyway and the Methuselah star
are not known with a great deal of imprecision
many scenarios remain possible.

Harry

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