One of the interesting characteristics about the P - E collision is that there is no standard coulomb repulsion between these two. I assume that the only reason that they do not join together is because of some form of quantum mechanical process. It is interesting that the electron seeks close companionship with the proton, but not too close. Two protons are repelled as expected by the coulomb barrier.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: pagnucco <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Mar 17, 2013 12:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Graneau Questions Robin, It's been a long time since I looked at it, but a bare, high kinetic energy e-p collision (not just a "coulombic deflection") can emit an unpredictable variety of subatomic particle sprays which must, of course, satisfy all conservation laws. An e-p collision involving collective electric or magnetic forces may be quite different. If we just use Newtonian physics and view an electron as a classical charged particle traveling in a ballistic current, or in an arc, its kinetic energy ("KE") may be well below 782 keV, but the magnetic field it couples to can possess enormous momentum, allowing it to surmount potential barriers greater than KE. A mechanical analogy: A basketball must surmount the gravitational barrier of a 1m high ramp. If its initial kinetic energy is equivalent to the barrier's potential energy "g X 1[m]"(g = gravit const), it rolls up and over. However, a suffiently strong constant wind can push it over the ramp, even if the ball never reaches a speed of "g X 1[m]". I believe that a classical electron encountering a barrier in an intense current slows and receives continual coulombic and magnetic momentum "kicks" similar to having a strong wind at its back. My guess (and it is only that) is that bare e-p collisions cannot produce the thunderstorm results. Cheers, Lou Pagnucco Mixent wrote: > In reply to [email protected]'s message of Sat, 16 Mar 2013 > 19:09:49 > -0400 (EDT): > Hi, > [snip] >> >>I could be mistaken, but I think that e-p free space bare collisions >>over 782 keV will result in all kinds of subatomic particle shards and >>debris, but seldom in a single neutron. >> > > What sort of shards do you expect from a proton and an electron? > Bremsstrahlung > probably, but I can't imagine what shards there might be. > > However I agree with you that neutron formation would probably be rare. > The > question is, would it be common enough to explain the results? > > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > > >
