On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: To the Japanese in 1941, Americans seemed outlandish. To the skeptics who agree with Cude or Close, we are the ones disconnected from reality. We are illogical and even mentally ill thinking that we can "fuse hydrogen in a mason jar." I do not think it does any good getting angry at such people. It is important that you understand their mindset. ***Okay, Jed. What we need as a group is a minimum set of facts that we agree are incontrovertible. I would think it is that Pons & Fleischmann were careful electrochemists, the preeminent of their day. That the physicists who chose to debunk their findings were far from careful due to inexperience in electrochemistry and this led to their negative findings. That there have been 14,700 replications of the P-F anomolous heat effect. If not, then how many? 180, as per Storms and National Instruments?
What are the base minimum set of facts that we all agree on? >

