Mark Gibbs <[email protected]> wrote:

Are the fine details of the Toyota experimental set up known?
>

Not known to me. But some details are straightforward. You can see from the
paper it was bulk Pd-D at high temperatures. When the Pd loads and the
effect turns on, high temperature increases the reaction rate, so it is no
surprise they got so much heat for so long.

The most important factor in a cold fusion experiment is the choice of host
metal; the Pd cathode in this case. As Miles showed in Table 10, if the
person doing the experiment is skilled, the success rate varies from zero
to 100% depending on the material. (This is one of the things I will talk
about at ICCF18.)

The Pd at Toyota was supplied by Johnson Matthey (JM). As shown in Miles
Table 10, JM material in the 1990s was FAR better than anyone else's. It
worked 100% of the time and it produced 10 to 100 times more power.
Nowadays the ENEA might have caught up. I wouldn't know about that. Anyway,
back then JM knew how to make this material and everyone else was guessing
and shooting in the dark. Tanaka Precious Metals was trying to figure it
out. If they had listened to Storms they might have done better. JM learned
how to make this material in 1930s, for their palladium filters. It happens
the two applications have similar requirements.

Martin Fleischmann understood that. He knew that before he began the
experiments in the 1980s, because -- as he told me -- "I told JM what I was
looking for, and they gave me this Pd." He was a complicated person but
sometimes he used the direct approach.

Anyway, JM supplied all of the materials used in the Toyota lab. They did
all of the post-experiment analysis and other materials work. The materials
got better. The electrochemistry got better. When it began to work like
gangbusters, Toyota and JM began arguing about who owned what, and they
both ended packing up their marbles and going home. I have my own opinions
about who was more at fault, but I'll keep that opinion to myself. The
point is, when it began to smell like a trillion dollar market, both sides
decided they wanted all the marbles. That often happens in business.

That's the story I heard anyway. A typical cold fusion tragic fiasco. You
don't know whether to laugh or cry.

So, JM knows. Or knew. The people there who knew are retired or dead.



> Has anyone tried to replicate that configuration?
>

ENEA, as I said. They are doing pretty well.



> and regarding the NEDO project "we never replicated" (which was an
>> outright lie).
>>
>
> Who were the "others"? And who delivered the outright lie?
>

I refer to the work done by Fleischmann there, and also Miles, which he
described here:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMnedofinalr.pdf

The agency is NEDO, the project was called NHE (New Hydrogen Energy).

When Miles started getting excess heat, he invited the Japanese managers to
come down the hall and look. They did not rouse themselves to do that.
After he left, they published a report that did not mention the work of
Fleischmann or Miles. As I recall, they published an absurd version of his
graph, physically impossible, with negative heat (impossible endothermic
reactions). He reproduced it in one of his papers.

As I recall, the official report ignored Fleischmann and Miles. They
published a confidential report, in Japanese. Someone at NEDO leaked it I
guess. Fleischmann and Miles sent me a copy. I translated it. It distorted
their results and denigrated them. They were pretty upset! That's where the
story ends.

Clearly, the fix was in. They did not want any excess heat. My gut feeling
is that they wanted it when the project began but by the time Miles was
there, they had given up hope and they wanted to close the program down.
The project was pretty much as waste of money, as McKubre and others
agreed. It was basically a bunch of highly skilled corporate engineers
learning electrochemistry by trial and error on the government's dime. They
did not have any professional electrochemists involved. Mizuno was 40
minutes away, right there in Sapporo, but they did not invite him. When the
staff started talking to him, they ordered them not to. They did not want
to be associated with any cold fusion researchers I guess. I got a sense
the the NHE people considered cold fusion researchers to be freaks and
losers. They were going to take over the research and show how to do it
right.

- Jed

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