Zounds!  So, at first scan, the Toyota results are never presented in
precise details of procedures, materials, people, runs, results, control
runs, micro and nano level studies of changes in the Pd, throrough
measurements of impurity and isotopic shifts, radioactives, radiations, no
archived samples of the magical
Johnson Matthey Pd for future study -- just rambling, poorly referenced
fantastic yarns -- impossible to replicate -- in all these hundreds of
successful runs have not one scientist saved pristine and used samples of
JM Pd?  I visited Storm's house on a hilltop in Santa Fe in maybe 1996, and
saw dozens of pieces of shiny Pd fragments in his lab -- aren't the chaotic
conditions at Toyota fairly ideal for producing inadvetent or deliberately
faked false positives, a la Rossi and BlackLight Power?

Very reasonable, cautious, open-minded agnostics can not be expected to
accept this story as convincing.

"The Pd at Toyota was supplied by Johnson Matthey (JM). As shown in Miles
Table 10, JM material in the 1990s was FAR better than anyone else's. It
worked 100% of the time and it produced 10 to 100 times more power.
Nowadays the ENEA might have caught up. I wouldn't know about that. Anyway,
back then JM knew how to make this material and everyone else was guessing
and shooting in the dark. Tanaka Precious Metals was trying to figure it
out. If they had listened to Storms they might have done better. JM learned
how to make this material in 1930s, for their palladium filters. It happens
the two applications have similar requirements."

The JM Pd has existed for over 70 years?  Wouldn't someone in the world
have some?  Why not do a global search for it?

How about giving us the full text for the report with Miles Table 10 ,
along with Joshua Cude's comments about it... " It worked 100% of the time
and it produced 10 to 100 times more power. "  Huh?

Is this the paper -- doesn't have a "Table 10"

A search on "Table" found:

"My previous research on anomalous effects in deuterated materials (cold
fusion) at China Lake, California and sponsored by the Office of Naval
Research, produced excess power levels of 100–300 mW with a high of 520 mW.
The excess power density was typically 1–5 W/cm3 of palladium. Only 28 out
of 94 different experiments produced excess power (30% success), but the
success ratio was high for Pd–B alloys (88%) and Johnson-Matthey palladium
samples (61%) as shown in Table 10 of Ref. 1 (p. 42). The success ratio
however, was very low for many other palladium materials."

"1. M.H. Miles, B.F. Bush and K.B. Johnson, “Anomalous Effects In
Deuterated Systems”, NAWCWPNS TP 8302, 98 pp., Naval Air Warfare Center
Weapons Division, China Lake, CA. U.S.A., September 1996."
pp. 1-98 (September 1996).
See also Infinite Energy, Vol. 315 & No. 16 pp. 35-59 (1997).

http://coldfusion-miles.com/presentations.html  ?

Can someone give a link to this 98 page report?


http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMnedofinalr.pdf  42 pages no photos

NEDO FINAL REPORT
ELECTROCHEMICAL CALORIMETRIC STUDIES
OF PALLADIUM AND PALLADIUM ALLOYS
IN HEAVY WATER
Dr. Melvin H. Miles
NEDO Guest Researcher
NHE Laboratory
3-5 Techno-Park 2-Chome Shimonopporo
Atsubetsu-ku, Sapporo-004, Japan
DATES:
October 23, 1997 to March 31, 1998
PRESENT ADDRESS:
Dr. Melvin H. Miles
Department of Chemistry
University of La Verne
1950 3rd Street
La Verne, California 91750
909-593-3511 Ext. 4646
[email protected] - work
Work Fax: 909-392-27

Bewildered by the beach, in Imperial Beach, 10 miles south of San Diego,

within the fellowship of service,  Rich Murray








On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Joshua Cude <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> The most important factor in a cold fusion experiment is the choice of
>> host metal; the Pd cathode in this case. As Miles showed in Table 10, if
>> the person doing the experiment is skilled, the success rate varies from
>> zero to 100% depending on the material.
>>
>
>
> Really? You need skill to get a success rate from 0 to 100%? I should
> think it would take skill to get outside that range.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> The Pd at Toyota was supplied by Johnson Matthey (JM). As shown in Miles
>> Table 10, JM material in the 1990s was FAR better than anyone else's. It
>> worked 100% of the time and it produced 10 to 100 times more power.
>>
>
> Hmm. Not in my version. As I read it, he lists 17/28 as the success ratio
> for the JM cells. And the power ratio can be anything from zero to
> infinity, depending on which cells you pick. But the power density was as
> high as 15 W/cm3, and the highest from other Pd was 2.1, so about 7 times
> more comparing peak to peak.
>
>
>> Martin Fleischmann understood that. He knew that before he began the
>> experiments in the 1980s, because -- as he told me -- "I told JM what I was
>> looking for, and they gave me this Pd." He was a complicated person but
>> sometimes he used the direct approach.
>>
>> The point is, when it began to smell like a trillion dollar market, both
>> sides decided they wanted all the marbles. That often happens in business.
>>
>> That's the story I heard anyway. A typical cold fusion tragic fiasco. You
>> don't know whether to laugh or cry.
>>
>
>
> I think an incredulous smirk is appropriate.
>
>
>>
>> So, JM knows. Or knew. The people there who knew are retired or dead.
>>
>>
>
> Very convenient for true believers, but Fleischmann lived for a long time
> after. Couldn't he just go and tell someone else what he was looking for?
> You know use that direct approach that worked before.
>
>
>
>
>> Clearly, the fix was in. They did not want any excess heat. My gut
>> feeling is that they wanted it when the project began but by the time Miles
>> was there, they had given up hope and they wanted to close the program
>> down.
>>
>
>
> Because who wants clean abundant energy? Who wants to save the world? Who
> wants honor glory fame. No one wants that!
>
>
>
>

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