note that the role of impurities seems well known, and probably linked
to crystallography
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?706-DARPA-Navy-Research-Labs-PdD-impurities-amp-LENR
Dominguez:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/papers/Dominguez-Anomalous-Results-Slides-ICCF17.pdf



and that article from ENEA may explain why:
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?616-ENEA-paper-ICCF15-(2009)-Cristallography-conditions&highlight=cristallography
Violante: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ViolanteVevolutiona.pdf

This is in my opinion one of the best evidence that this is real. Anayway
that is a personal opinion, given the hundred of "best evidence" that are
published already...

Anyway I like it because fraud follow easy path.

Note to some people more realist than me:
of course all is faked, because it was done by people who believed in LENR,
of believe afterward.
No people believing in LENR may be trusted.
thus no trusted researched accept LENR.
QOD.
more simple to decide. Especially if you have no money to win/lose if LENR
is real.


2013/5/13 Rich Murray <[email protected]>

> Zounds!  So, at first scan, the Toyota results are never presented in
> precise details of procedures, materials, people, runs, results, control
> runs, micro and nano level studies of changes in the Pd, throrough
> measurements of impurity and isotopic shifts, radioactives, radiations, no
> archived samples of the magical
> Johnson Matthey Pd for future study -- just rambling, poorly referenced
> fantastic yarns -- impossible to replicate -- in all these hundreds of
> successful runs have not one scientist saved pristine and used samples of
> JM Pd?  I visited Storm's house on a hilltop in Santa Fe in maybe 1996, and
> saw dozens of pieces of shiny Pd fragments in his lab -- aren't the chaotic
> conditions at Toyota fairly ideal for producing inadvetent or deliberately
> faked false positives, a la Rossi and BlackLight Power?
>
> Very reasonable, cautious, open-minded agnostics can not be expected to
> accept this story as convincing.
>
> "The Pd at Toyota was supplied by Johnson Matthey (JM). As shown in Miles
> Table 10, JM material in the 1990s was FAR better than anyone else's. It
> worked 100% of the time and it produced 10 to 100 times more power.
> Nowadays the ENEA might have caught up. I wouldn't know about that. Anyway,
> back then JM knew how to make this material and everyone else was guessing
> and shooting in the dark. Tanaka Precious Metals was trying to figure it
> out. If they had listened to Storms they might have done better. JM learned
> how to make this material in 1930s, for their palladium filters. It happens
> the two applications have similar requirements."
>
> The JM Pd has existed for over 70 years?  Wouldn't someone in the world
> have some?  Why not do a global search for it?
>
> How about giving us the full text for the report with Miles Table 10 ,
> along with Joshua Cude's comments about it... " It worked 100% of the
> time and it produced 10 to 100 times more power. "  Huh?
>
> Is this the paper -- doesn't have a "Table 10"
>
> A search on "Table" found:
>
> "My previous research on anomalous effects in deuterated materials (cold
> fusion) at China Lake, California and sponsored by the Office of Naval
> Research, produced excess power levels of 100–300 mW with a high of 520 mW.
> The excess power density was typically 1–5 W/cm3 of palladium. Only 28 out
> of 94 different experiments produced excess power (30% success), but the
> success ratio was high for Pd–B alloys (88%) and Johnson-Matthey palladium
> samples (61%) as shown in Table 10 of Ref. 1 (p. 42). The success ratio
> however, was very low for many other palladium materials."
>
> "1. M.H. Miles, B.F. Bush and K.B. Johnson, “Anomalous Effects In
> Deuterated Systems”, NAWCWPNS TP 8302, 98 pp., Naval Air Warfare Center
> Weapons Division, China Lake, CA. U.S.A., September 1996."
> pp. 1-98 (September 1996).
> See also Infinite Energy, Vol. 315 & No. 16 pp. 35-59 (1997).
>
> http://coldfusion-miles.com/presentations.html  ?
>
> Can someone give a link to this 98 page report?
>
>
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MilesMnedofinalr.pdf  42 pages no photos
>
> NEDO FINAL REPORT
> ELECTROCHEMICAL CALORIMETRIC STUDIES
> OF PALLADIUM AND PALLADIUM ALLOYS
> IN HEAVY WATER
> Dr. Melvin H. Miles
> NEDO Guest Researcher
> NHE Laboratory
> 3-5 Techno-Park 2-Chome Shimonopporo
> Atsubetsu-ku, Sapporo-004, Japan
> DATES:
> October 23, 1997 to March 31, 1998
> PRESENT ADDRESS:
> Dr. Melvin H. Miles
> Department of Chemistry
> University of La Verne
> 1950 3rd Street
> La Verne, California 91750
> 909-593-3511 Ext. 4646
> [email protected] - work
> Work Fax: 909-392-27
>
> Bewildered by the beach, in Imperial Beach, 10 miles south of San Diego,
>
> within the fellowship of service,  Rich Murray
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Joshua Cude <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The most important factor in a cold fusion experiment is the choice of
>>> host metal; the Pd cathode in this case. As Miles showed in Table 10, if
>>> the person doing the experiment is skilled, the success rate varies from
>>> zero to 100% depending on the material.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Really? You need skill to get a success rate from 0 to 100%? I should
>> think it would take skill to get outside that range.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The Pd at Toyota was supplied by Johnson Matthey (JM). As shown in Miles
>>> Table 10, JM material in the 1990s was FAR better than anyone else's. It
>>> worked 100% of the time and it produced 10 to 100 times more power.
>>>
>>
>> Hmm. Not in my version. As I read it, he lists 17/28 as the success ratio
>> for the JM cells. And the power ratio can be anything from zero to
>> infinity, depending on which cells you pick. But the power density was as
>> high as 15 W/cm3, and the highest from other Pd was 2.1, so about 7 times
>> more comparing peak to peak.
>>
>>
>>> Martin Fleischmann understood that. He knew that before he began the
>>> experiments in the 1980s, because -- as he told me -- "I told JM what I was
>>> looking for, and they gave me this Pd." He was a complicated person but
>>> sometimes he used the direct approach.
>>>
>>> The point is, when it began to smell like a trillion dollar market, both
>>> sides decided they wanted all the marbles. That often happens in business.
>>>
>>> That's the story I heard anyway. A typical cold fusion tragic fiasco.
>>> You don't know whether to laugh or cry.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think an incredulous smirk is appropriate.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> So, JM knows. Or knew. The people there who knew are retired or dead.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Very convenient for true believers, but Fleischmann lived for a long time
>> after. Couldn't he just go and tell someone else what he was looking for?
>> You know use that direct approach that worked before.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>  Clearly, the fix was in. They did not want any excess heat. My gut
>>> feeling is that they wanted it when the project began but by the time Miles
>>> was there, they had given up hope and they wanted to close the program
>>> down.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Because who wants clean abundant energy? Who wants to save the world? Who
>> wants honor glory fame. No one wants that!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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