I think this behavior in diluted form is what we consider catalytic action, a combination of casimir geometries both repulsive and attractive with abrupt changes where the gases occupying said environment experience breaks in the normal square law isotropy we associate with gravity.
With a relativistic perspective the local gas atoms are unaware of this suppression of longer wavelengths and continue to follow random motion dictated by HUP that moves them between different geometries such that an opportunity to exploit this motion as usable energy occurs. One example that comes to mind would be a MAHG like scenario where the molecular form and atomic form of the gas oppose this motion differently and become segregated when migrating through these geometries, effectively a Maxwellian demon if disassociation can be synched to occur at a different suppression level than where reassociation occurs. It is balancing on the head of a pin where the temperature of the gas creates a mix of monatomic and diatomic such that disassociation can be targeted to occur near the most restrictive geometry while heat sinking to prevent melt down and remove the heat that occurs when the gas moves to a less restricted area and reassociates. I think the geometry suppression is the heart of your NAE environment and my MAHG like example to exploit may not be the best. Gotta Run but will answer this in more detail later. Fran -----Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:51 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:'Slow' arcing electrons can gain relativistic mass Would you not expect this process to produce observable behavior if it could occur spontaneously in a material? The local energy would be expected to cause various effects such as local chemical reactions, X- radiation, and local heating would it not? Such effects are not observed even though many different materials have been examined by science very carefully. And, why do you ignore the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which says energy does not spontaneously concentrate in local regions in a material? Ed Storms On May 15, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: > Lou, we are now on exactly the same page! My posit remains that > relativistic effects are exactly what "suppression" does. When > longer wavelengths can't fit between the casimir geometry it becomes > negative to us in exactly the same way we appear to suppress longer > wavelengths to an object approaching "C". This is a quantum effect > of the nickel geometry that alters the space time which the gas > between the plates occupies. I do believe the transition is > "transparent" to the gas atoms [tiny local observer] and will remain > symmetrical as suppression increases and decreases. There won't be > an energy gain unless reactions are synchronized to occur at > different suppression levels such that this change in equivalent > energy can be used to discount the "restore" side of the reaction. I > think this may happen in nature but runaway quickly destroys the > geometry and it will only be with careful heat sinking, material > choices and control of the geometry that we will be able to retain > the properties long enough to learn more about them and how to > exploit. > Fran > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:04 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:'Slow' arcing electrons can gain > relativistic mass > > > Widom-Larsen, Brillouin (and some others) propose that electrons > acquire > 782 KeV mass/energy and overcome the electroweak barrier to combine > with > protons, deuterons or tritons to produce low momentum neutrons. > > Storms notes [1] that an electron must reach relativistic speeds to > gain > 782 KeV in a lattice, - seemingly a very tall order, due to > collisions. > Others, e.g. Hagelstein, et al[2], doubt that field strengths in LENR > experiments provide this extra energy ("renormalized" mass). > > I think both objections may overlook collective effects. > > In an arc, colliding electron-proton(deuteron) wave packet pairs are > strongly squeezed together by equal, opposite magnetic forces. > > Even when the composite packet has velocity zero (lab frame), the > packets > continue absorbing field energy by becoming more oscillatory, > localized and > overlapping as spectra shift to high mass/energy eigenstates. In > pictures: > > > TIME Low resolution ASCII graphic of > | e-p collision with (lab) velocity ~ 0 > | > V PROTON ELECTRON > | -----> <----- Decreasing > | _____________ _____________ Magnetic > | / \ / \ Vector Potential > | / PROTON \ / ELECTRON \ > | / 'p' \ / 'e' \ A > | -------------------+--------------------- -------------> > | > V |\ 'HEAVIER' | > | | \ ELECTRON | > | _____________ | \ /\ | > | | \| \ / \ V > | | | \/ \ /\ /\ | > | | | \/ \/ \ A | > | -------------------+--------------------\ -------> | > | V > | | A-field > | |\ transfering > | | \ | 'HEAVY' momentum > | | \ |\ ELECTRON to e-p pair > | ___________|___\ | \ | | > | | | |\| \|\ | > | | | | | | | | > | | /\| | \ \ \ A | > | -------------/------+-------\-\---------- ---> V > V significant e-p electron wave packet > wave packet overlap becomes squeezed, more > localized, oscillatory, > - spectrum shift to high > mass/energy eigenstates > > > Electron velocities in arcs are usually far below relativistic, but > the arc > magnetic field stores huge energy and momentum that is transferred > to/from > colliding particles when the arc current rises, falls, or is > interrupted. > > To gain 782Kev in energy, an electron can equivalently acquire (see > [6]) > > momentum = 6.3480 * 10^-22 [N*sec] -- where [N] = newtons > > The following example shows that this does not require exotic lab > equipment. > > Assume the electron is in an arc plasma uniformly distributed in a > tube > with radius=R, length=10*R, current=I aligned with the z-axis of 3- > space. > > We want to compute how much field momentum can be transferred to a > electron > 'e' in a collision at a radial distance 'r' from the tube center. > > =============================== x-axis > ^ e \ / > | ^ <----- I[Amps] \ / > | | r \ / > 2R -------+------------------- <------x----- z-axis > | / \ > | / \ > v / y-axis > =============================== > > |<------ L = 10*R ------->| > > > The (under-utilized) "magnetic vector potential" field (denoted A(r)) > depends only on local currents. Very conveniently [3,4] -- > > q*A(r) = momentum impulse (as a vector) that a charge 'q' at point > 'r' > picks up if currents sourcing vector-field 'A' are shut off > > By ref[5], near the outer surface of the electron plasma tube (r = R), > the momentum available to electrons, protons, or deuterons is > > [e]*|A(R)| = [e] * (u0/4*pi) * ln(2L/R) * I > = (1.6*10^-19 [C]) * (10^-7 [N/Amp^2]) * ln(20) * I > = 4.8 * 10^-26 [C] * [N/Amp^2] * I > > {Note that this only depends on the R and L ratio.} > > So, the minimum current which can provide a colliding electron (at a > radial distance R) in this arc with 782 KeV is > > > I = {6.348 * 10^-22 [N*sec]} / {4.8 * 10^-26 [C*N/Amp^2]} > = 1.33 * 10^4 [Amp] > > > -- [e] = electron charge = 1.6*10^-19 [C], [C] = coulomb > u0 = permeability of free space = 4*pi*10^-7 [N/Amp^2] > ln = natural log, ln(20) ~ 3 > [Amp] = [C]/[sec] > > Much greater arc currents are routinely achieved [7]. > > > NOTES - > 1) Only electrons can acquire significant relativistic mass from > a momentum "kick" in arcs due to their small mass. > More massive protons, deuterons or tritons will not gain much mass. > > 2) The equation for |A(r)| is singular at r=0 (see [5]). > This is not "unphysical" since volume integral is still finite. > It shows that much smaller currents still can produce "heavy > electrons" > at the center of current flow, but less frequently. > > 3) It is not obvious whether inner K-shell electrons of an atom in an > arc can be forced into the nucleus - resulting in "electron > capture" > > 4) Perhaps a similar analysis applies to currents in emulsions of > metal > particles in dielectric fluids [8]. > > 5) Widom-Larsen also calculate the collective magnetic force using the > "Darwin Lagrangian" which includes pairwise magnetic energy between > electrons. > > REFERENCES - > [1] (p. 29) "A Student's Guide to Cold Fusion" > http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEastudentsg.pdf > > [2] "Electron mass shift in nonthermal systems" > http://arxiv.org/pdf/0801.3810.pdf > > [3] "Feynman Lectures on Physics" Vol.3, Ch.21 (p.5) > http://www.peaceone.net/basic/Feynman/V3%20Ch21.pdf > > [4] "On the Definition of 'Hidden' Momentum" (p.10 - note cgs units) > http://hep.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/hiddendef.pdf > > [5] UIUC Physics 435 EM Fields & Sources - LECTURE NOTES 16 (p. 8) > http://web.hep.uiuc.edu/home/serrede/P435/Lecture_Notes/P435_Lect_16.pdf > > [6] Accelerating Voltage Calculator > http://www.ou.edu/research/electron/bmz5364/calc-kv.html > > [7] "EXPERIMENTAL INVESTIGATION OF THE CURRENT DENSITY AND THE HEAT- > FLUX > DENSITY IN THE CATHODE ARC SPOT" > > http://www.ifi.unicamp.br/~aruy/publicacoes/PDF/IfZh%20current%20density%20and%20U.pdf > > [8] AMPLIFICATION OF ENERGETIC REACTIONS - Brian Ahern > United States Patent Application 20110233061 > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0233061.html - EXCERPT: > <<Ultrasonic amplification may have usefulness, but it is inferior to > are discharges through nanocomposite solids due to a process called > the > "inverse skin effect." In ordinary metals, a rapid pulse of current > remains close to an outer surface in a process referred to as the > "skin effect." Typically, the electric current pulses flow on the > outer > surface of a conductor. Discharges through a dielectric embedded with > metallic particles behave very differently. The nanoparticles act > as a > series of short circuit elements that confine the breakdown > currents to > very, very small internal discharge pathways. This inverse skin > effect > can have great implications for energy densification in composite > materials. Energetic reactions described fully herein are amplified > by an inverse skin effect. These very small discharge pathways are so > narrow that the magnetic fields close to them are amplified to > magnitudes unachievable by other methods >> > > > Comments/criticisms are welcome. > > -- Lou Pagnucco > > > > >
