Jed, I just want tell you as somebody with research and practical experience in pyrolysis of organics, mainly polymers including rubber- that the Petroldragon affair was most probably 80% techno-blunder and 20% scam, very uninspired.The disaster was predictable.
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote: > We all know that Rossi has some personal credibility problems. He has been > involved in some dodgy business. As I have pointed out before you can say > that about many important people such as Edison and Steve Jobs who got his > start selling devices to steal from the telephone company. People are > complicated and you should not have a one-dimensional view of their worth. > > Lost in the middle of another large thread, Jones Beene listed some > reasons why Rossi does have some personal credibility. Let me copy his > entire message and then add some other reasons. > > QUOTE > > . . . AR sold his biofuel company EON for about one million Euro and could > have retired comfortably to Miami on that income. This is a matter of > public record. > > Instead - he reinvests the proceeds of the EON sale into his project ! > Does that sound like a scammer? > > It is preposterous that anyone would claim that he does this sale of a > profitable company – and then reinvestment the proceeds to perpetuate as > scam, with which to obtain enough capital for “adequate living” when he > already had that to begin with. Instead he has to go through the constant > reminders of his past legal difficulties, in order to find a solution to > one of societies greatest problems? > > Get a life! These people like Krivit, etc -- who blindly suggest scam > because they personally were not honored with a demo -- ought to at least > do their homework first and read what is available in the public record > before spouting crap about scam, since there is no plausible motive which > would be worth the risk. > > END QUOTE > > > Right! Here are some other reasons -- > > People who have worked with Rossi tell me that he works 10 to 14 hours a > day. As Beene says, he could have retired comfortably but instead he spends > hours a day doing difficult, painstaking and sometimes dangerous > experiments in a crowded workshop. > > People who know him tell me he is a genius at the workbench. He has the > kind of intellect that expresses itself in prototype machinery, not > abstract ideas. This in no way denigrates his abilities. Some people > express ideas in words and formulas, others by making equipment. I think > Edison mainly worked by building actual prototypes. You might also compare > Rossi to a great artist such as Rodin. > > Independent observers tell me that he really did make dozens of prototype > devices for his 1 MW reactor, which he then modified and modified again. I > think he scrapped a large number of them at one point, and started over > from scratch. This must have cost a fortune. > > This is not the profile of a scammer. If the equipment was fake, he could > produce it quickly with minimal effort. He would not spend hundreds of > thousands of dollars making prototype equipment which he then trashes. He > would make one or two fake, stage-prop prototypes, and he would use them > again and again. He would not spend thousands of dollars renting a large > workshop, renting a gasoline powered 200 kW generator, or buying a shipping > container. You can make a fake energy device much smaller than this, at a > tiny fraction of this cost. Putting hundreds of devices inside a shipping > container does not enhance your credibility with scientists and investors. > On the contrary, most people find that odd. > > A scammer would not invite important people from NASA to his lab and then > do a demonstration that clearly fails to work. If he has the ability to put > on a demonstration that fools people and fools instruments, why wouldn't he > use that ability every time, for every audience? The people from NASA are > experts, but no more capable than others who saw the equipment when it was > working properly. There is no question that in other demonstrations the > performance was quite different from the failed demonstration that day. > > I cannot prove by logic and common sense that Rossi is not a faker. This > sort of thing cannot be demonstrated with rigorous proof, the way an > experiment or an equation can be. But everything I know about history, > society, confidence men, and my experience with people like Rossi tell me > that he is not faking. He does have a powerful reality distortion field. > Some gifted people do, especially inventors and entrepreneurs such as > Edison and Steve Jobs. I define this as someone who sees things in his > imagination more clearly than he sees things in reality, and who has a > strange charisma that sometimes causes other people share his visions. Such > people are dangerous. They often cause disasters. But they also build > things that most people think are impossible, such as the Brooklyn Bridge > and the airplane. > > Fleischmann and Pons were nothing like this, by the way. They were > painfully conventional people, as Martin often said. > > - Jed > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
