On May 27, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Edmund Storms
<[email protected]> wrote:
Kevin, I see no evidence in the link for the actual existence of a
BEC forming between hydrons at room temperature. People have
proposed but not demonstrated.
Ed Storms
***That's because it would be difficult and expensive to
demonstrate. What you said was "The BEC is known from experience
and theory to only form near absolute zero." But that is not the
case. So if BECs in other materials can form at high temperature,
it is not a tremendous supposition to suggest they can in Nickel/H1
of Palladium/Deuterium.
The essential question is, Does a BEC form in any material? Various
applications of this concept have been applied, but not to hydron
atoms. In fact, when BEC are formed near absolute zero, they consist
of neutral atoms in a vacuum. In the case of hydrons, they are ions
located in stable sites in a structure. Moving these ions into a
common site where a BEC might form takes energy. Formation of a BEC
does not supply much energy, as theory shows. I do not see any
advantage to pretending something might happen that conflicts with
basic theory and experience unless this is the only possibility. This
is not the only possibility. In fact, better ideas have been suggested.
Ed Storms
On May 27, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]
> wrote:
The BEC is known from experience and theory to only form near
absolute zero.
***How quickly you forget having logged onto this thread:
Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg76596.html
And this thread was greeted with a yawn:
[Vo]:Re: Superheated Bose-Einstein condensate exists above critical
temperature
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg78827.html
