We are taking about two different phenomenon of nature. Trying to use
the same concepts and words to describe both results in confusion.
Those of us who have studied cold fusion for the last 23 years have a
definition of CF that is not up for discussion. Please try to
understand what I'm telling you.
Cold fusion and hot fusion require different conditions to cause their
initiation, they have different nuclear products, and they result at
different rates. These are facts and not a matter of arbitrary
definition.
Cold fusion requires only a few eV for it to be initiated. In
contrast, many keV are required to cause hot fusion at the same rate.
Cold fusion produces helium while hot fusion produces fragments of
helium.
Cold fusion requires a solid while hot fusion occurs in plasma.
Cold fusion does not produce neutrons, while hot fusion produces many
neutrons when the same amount of energy is released.
The term LENR is used to only describe cold fusion. It was not created
for it to be applied to hot fusion.
On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
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From: Edmund Storms
Jones, please do not confuse hot fusion with cold fusion. The
difference
is in the products.
Not necessarily. Perhaps that is your definition, but as I stated -
the
Farnsworth Fusor is LENR on the input side. Same with sonofusion -
it is the
input that matters most - NOT the output.
The Fusor is definitely NOT hot fusion. The average plasma
temperature is in
the range of neon lighting of CFL or CRTs.
The resulting nuclear products are the important criteria. I can
produce hot fusion simply by hitting LiD with a hammer. Therefore the
applied power is not important. The amount of applied power only
changes the rate, not the resulting nuclear reactions. Because
neutrons are made by hot fusion, it can be detected at VERY LOW rates.
That is why only a few keV can cause a detectable rate. The applied
voltage does not change the kind of nuclear reaction that takes place.
We must make a clear distinction between the nuclear reaction that
results from hot fusion and the different one that results from cold
fusion. Your approach confuses this requirement.
Sonofusion produces neutrons, and is generally considered "cold" and
the
Fusor is similar.
Sonofusion produces hot fusion, i.e, it apparently produces equal
amounts of neutrons and tritium, not helium. Yes, I know the tritium
has not been reported in this case. The relative applied power is
not important. I say again, the applied power ONLY CHANGES THE RATE.
It does not change the resulting nuclear reaction.
Most observers these days label the Fusor "warm" but it in reality
it is FAR
closer to LENR than to hot fusion - and IMO if the device is in no-
man's
land - then LENR group should claim it, just as with sonofusion.
I don't know who you are quoting, but they have no idea what they are
talking about.
Ed Storms
Jones
