Hello folks,

I'm scanning just a little of the cold fusion discussion the last two weeks
-- I'm glad Joshua Cude is married and has to balance a life against his
brisk practice to pinpointing and summarizing evidence that cold fusion
claims are erroneous -- I believe him when he says, like me, he would love
to see effective replicable proof for any anomaly in cold fusion research
-- elusive now for 24 years, since 1989 -- I have experience with
psychokinesis many time via the ancient method of throwing 3 pennies 6
times to get amazing advice from the I Ching -- I understand the many
sensible skeptical critiques of this claim -- so I suspect cold fusion is
another case of appearances shifting within awareness due to faith and
desire -- we live and move and have our being within an inexplicable
hyperinfinity...

within the fellowship of service,  Rich Murray


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:28 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]>wrote:

> Vorl:
> You haven't a clue either...
>
> When it comes to LENR, there is overwhelming evidence, and most of the
> people on this forum who 'appear' as TBs, have read the literature, so to
> call them TBs is in error; they are basing their decision on having read
> the
> evidence themselves.  To someone who hasn't read it, or only skimmed it,
> I'm
> sure we look like TBs.  Like Dr. Rob Duncan said at the end of the
> 60-Minutes story on CF, "Read the publications, talk to the [CF]
> scientists,
> visit their labs... DON'T LET OTHERS DO YOUR THINKING FOR YOU."  Many here
> have... have you?
>
> When it comes to Rossi, I see plenty of rational criticism and concern as
> well in most regular contributors on this forum; I think we all have some
> level of concern and are not 100% convinced.  That is not the definition of
> a TB.  If Rossi was the lone claimant of excess heat and other anomalous
> observations, then perhaps TB would be appropriate.  But that is not that
> case.
>
> So we can either sit here and bad-mouth Rossi, and think of all manner of
> ways that it could be a scam (which serves no useful purpose other than
> self-gratification), OR, we can assume he's onto something, which due to
> much evidence outside of Rossi is reasonable, and try to help progress by
> discussing reasonable concerns and possible mechanisms. There are some
> experimentalists on the forum and perhaps it'll help their efforts; which
> is
> the more honorable use of our time?  It should be obvious...
>
> At least this forum has a level of respect for the individual and those who
> might be onto some discovery that could benefit all, and the planet.  Cude
> has no respect for the people on this forum, and probably in general... his
> arrogance is so blatant, even you should be able to see it.
>
> -Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vorl Bek [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Over 40 messages posted by Joshua Cude posted on June 4
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:35:47 -0500
> "OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Mr. Beaty,
> >
> >
> >
> > When I opened up my mail box this morning I was flooded with over 40
> > posted messages from Joshua Cude. And it's only 7:10 AM in the
> > morning. I know of no one within the Vort Collective besides Cude that
> > has displayed this amount of excessive and obsessive posting behavior.
> > How many more Cude posts can we expect, today alone?
>
> Cude is one sane person in a nest of True Believers. He has every right to
> point out the nonsense the TBs are spouting.
>
> Others on this list post far more often than Cude, but you have nothing to
> say about them; it seems to me you just want to shut Cude up because you do
> not like what he says.
>
>
>
>

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