Jones,
        On enrichment vs geometry do you think it is both that are needed for 
robust operation? Can Ni Cu wire be leached out like Ni Al to form a skeletal 
catalyst on the wire surface? Celani must be querying his vendor for clues into 
what changed..
Fran

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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Celani, Rossi & Ni62


Here is the $64 question... or should I say $62 dollar question.

Does Celani's success last year, combined with the failure of (many) others to 
replicate the Celani effect in constantan wire- tell us anything about Rossi's 
claim of Ni-62 activity? They seem completely unconnected, at first take.

However, on closer analysis they may actually explain each other.

One interpretation of this combination of factors is to suggest that YES - 
Celani may have found, by accident, that there is a treatment process for the 
copper-nickel wire which has the side-effect of isotope transport (and 
subsequent enrichment) to the surface of the wire. But Celani never realized 
that this was the precise reason why some wires worked and some did not, and 
now - the most effective treatment process has been lost. (because he did not 
connect cause-and-effect soon enough?).

Even without isotope separation, if - during some type of heat-treatment and 
oxidation - the active nickel isotope migrates to the surface layer of a wire, 
the statistical probability of contact with hydrogen is increased by a large 
factor (possibly a hundred-fold) -  there is no need for an expensive isotope 
to be purchased if this can be done with chemistry.

Why did others not replicate Celani's early results, and why does Celani's own 
work recently seem to have stagnated?

AHA! That could related to changes in the treatment process. Celani has stated 
before that he bought the wire pretreated and samples were seen that had a 
visible wire coating which was burnt off - but then perhaps the processing was 
changed. There were many version of his wire - yet he is apparently NO LONGER 
able to provide working wires - even for himself.

BTW - Can anyone confirm that his work has stagnated ?

For those that would say that chemical process cannot fractionate nickel 
isotopes, consider this piece of evidence:

http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/3171/

Apparently, this is fairly firm proof that bacteria can enrich nickel isotopes 
(there must be a survival benefit). Even if those are not the isotopes useful 
in the Rossi effect, the fact that chemistry can do this  -in principle- has 
rather profound implications, no?

Jones

BTW - in testing of the ratio of Ni58 and Ni60, which are the most abundant 
isotopes, analysis of cultures of three archaea - Methanosarcina barkeri etc-- 
showed that all the bacteria fractionated nickel so that the isotope selected 
was lighter relative to the starting isotopic value of the growth medium.

The further implication of this datum is that the bacteria are selecting 
against excess energy possibilities (if Rossi is correct).

That goes against common sense. except when you realize that this period of 
Earth was one of very high ambient heat conditions, and the one thing these 
organisms wanted to avoid most was excess heat :)

This assumes that if they had not selected the lighter isotopes then the excess 
heat would be unavoidable, meaning that simple exposure of protons to heavy 
nickel is all that is needed- and survivability is enhanced by isotopic 
selectivity.

Rather perverse logic, no?


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