Replace terrorists with theorists.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is possible to deduce the cause of disease as a result of the actions > of parasitic animals and plants so small they cannot be seen by the naked > eye. > > The invention of the microscope makes the study of these small creatures > easier to believe in and to see how they cause disease. > > The advancement of knowledge is always accompanied by the development of > experimental technology that verifies the concepts that are born in the > imagination of the terrorists. > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:16 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: > >> The "conservation of miracles" mainly implies that the subject is not >> understood properly at this point in time. How many of these >> miracles were needed to make the first transistor? I am always amused by >> the lack of incite expressed by the extreme skeptic responses shown by >> closed minded individuals. It seems they believe that they understand >> everything about the world and nothing new will ever arise. My money is >> on the bet that there is far more to learn about science than we currently >> understand. >> >> It appears that we are going to have to rely upon an engineer such as >> Rossi to open the channels. First the working device and then a working >> understanding is the order for the day. Lets hope that there is not too >> much time separating these components. >> >> Dave >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pagnucco <pagnu...@htdconnect.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Mon, Jun 10, 2013 4:46 pm >> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superabsorbers >> >> Jones, >> >> If this is occurring, only incontrovertible proof from Rossi's reactor >> will convince the Physic establishment. No discussion will. >> >> Also, if it is happening, them multiple, different phenomena are probably >> operating in LENR phenomena, i.e., no "conservation of miracles" >> >> Jones Beene wrote: >> > The observation that the Rossi HotCat could be operating as a crude >> > resonator tube - may not have struck a chord with everyone here... at >> > least >> > not yet. Understandable - since it may not be readily apparent how that >> > benefits the situation, even if true. >> > >> > However, methinks the idea of a coherent resonator will catch-on >> > eventually, >> > especially if Rossi's public success continues with the HotCat. This new >> > regime seems like a major breakthrough to me, and that image of the >> > glowing >> > tube is very powerful. It is no wonder that careful Swedish scientists >> > were >> > willing to go "out on a limb" in their paper. Consequently, for future >> > reference, here are a couple of more thoughts on the subject of a harmonic >> > thermal resonator and how it could be involved in net thermal gain. >> > >> > A "parametric oscillator" is a harmonic oscillator whose dynamic motion >> > seems to be greatly amplified by comparatively small input. A common >> > example >> > of the parametric oscillator is a child on a playground swing, where the >> > torque expressed by the swing seems much greater than the physical >> > exertion >> > to keep it going. >> > >> > In microwave electronics, a precise waveguide "cavity" as the parametric >> > oscillator component will convert RF into coherency - thus a maser. This >> > could be a decent analogy to the HotCat, especially if RF is indeed >> > detected >> > at some future point, and especially if it is at the 21 cm line (or a >> > harmonic). >> > >> > Another example is the OPO, or optical parametric oscillator. Furthermore, >> > there is no reason why a maser and an OPO (in the IR spectrum) could not >> > be >> > combined into a single harmonic device, such as a tube in which thermal >> > input (in the infrared) and RF combine to give an amplified internal >> > resonance and coherence. But so what? ... one might ask. >> > >> > Needless to say, it gets more complicated than just amplification or >> > coherency. Of course, any such device (can we call it MIRPO for maser-IR >> > parametric oscillator?) would not be gainful in itself, but the >> > amplification could operate to produce coherent Rydberg energy quanta, and >> > hydrogen has amenable lines for this. >> > >> > When we look at hydrogen lines, we see two of them in the IR which can >> > serve >> > to pump an isomer of hydrogen into deep ground-state redundancy and then >> > there is the famous microwave line. However, the gain would most likely >> > derive from soft x-rays at a much higher Rydberg multiple - particularly >> > at >> > the nickel "hole" of 300 eV. This hypothesis is not Millsean but is >> > derived >> > from Mills' CQM; and this particular Rydberg "hole" was identified by him >> > 20 >> > years ago. It all fits together elegantly in the HotCat, but that fit >> > alone >> > does not make it correct. >> > >> > The thermal gain in this hypothesis would be derived from electrons, and >> > from lost orbital angular momentum- and thus, the gain is not nuclear and >> > not exactly chemical. There could be a nuclear nexus (magnons), but we do >> > not need it for the simplest explanation. In the past we have called this >> > "supra-chemical." >> > >> > It provides about 200 times more energy than burning hydrogen in oxygen, >> > with the by-product (ash) being the "lost" hydrogen. The active atom is >> > effectively "lost" insofar as its atomic volume has decreased 64^3 or well >> > over 250,000:1. The ash of the reaction cannot be contained, if it were >> > not >> > magnetic. >> > >> > Hydrogen seems to "disappear" but in fact it has "shrunk" down in >> > effective >> > volume to a state where its increased magnetic susceptibility can draw it >> > deep into the valence cloud of a ferromagnetic atom (nickel). The >> > fractional >> > hydrogen (f/H) having given up its angular momentum energy then becomes >> > bound to such an extent that when tested - in mass spectrometers, much of >> > what is really a molecule (Ni-H) will look exactly like mass-29, which is >> > copper, instead of mass-28 which is nickel. >> > >> > This is probably why Rossi and Focardi mistakenly assumed that nickel was >> > being "converted" into copper, even though there was no radioactivity. The >> > strong bonding of Ni with f/H will confuse many mass spectrometers, and it >> > fooled Focardi into thinking that there was more copper in the ash than >> > there really was. >> > _____________________________________________ >> > >> > >> > It might be informative for any of us who have an interest >> > in coherent or semi-coherent emission and absorption in the optical >> > spectrum >> > (or lower), to take this idea further - and try to find actual parameters >> > for a stimulated lasing regime which "on paper" could be active inside the >> > stainless tube of the HotCat. A good place to start is "chemisorption." >> > Can >> > we "supersize" it? >> > >> > Such an outcome could be inadvertent (on Rossi's part) and >> > it could be "quasi" coherent, in the sense of superradiant. And the >> > purpose >> > is not to produce a beam per se- but to produce an internal resonance for >> > thermal gain via a photon positive feedback of some type. >> > >> > Here is a paper on optical pumping of an IR laser >> > >> > http://proceedings.spiedigitallibrary.org/proceeding.aspx?articleid=1006553 >> > >> > Thermal input alone can in principle provide the IR light >> > needed by the lasing medium, which we could presume as a starting argument >> > is a hydrogen based molecule. However, the input of HotCat would surely be >> > limited to a long wavelength based on 800 degree C thermal radiation >> > unless >> > it comes from a chemical reaction triggered by that thermal input. If the >> > gain is related to a whole fraction of the Rydberg energy, then there are >> > only a few frequencies of interest in this range. >> > >> > In the paper above, experiments are performed on a optically >> > pumped KF or hydrogen fluoride laser. Rotation-vibration transitions in >> > the >> > (2,0) band around 1.3 micrometers are pumped, and lasing is observed on >> > (2,1) band transitions near 2.7 micrometers. As fate would have it, a >> > transition of interest in "chemisorption" known reactions happens to be in >> > this same micron range. That is the hydrogen-copper system. It has a large >> > activation energy of .35 to .85 eV. which includes two Rydberg whole >> > fractions. >> > >> > The vibrational excitation of the hydrogen molecule is known >> > to promote dissociation on low index surfaces of copper and copper nickel. >> > As it turns out, .85 eV is a whole fraction of the Rydberg energy and >> > along >> > with .425 eV would be of interest as the active semi-coherent radiation >> > spectra capable of the ultimate goal - sequential pumping protons lodged >> > in >> > nickel into deeply redundant ground states ... where gain comes from >> > conversion of electron angular momentum into energy. No nuclear >> > transitions >> > are required for this. >> > >> > Jones >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com >> > >> > Perhaps, this early e-catworld report is relevant - >> > >> > Report From Visitor to Defkalion >> > >> > http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/03/report-from-visitor-to-defkalion/ >> > >> > Excerpt: "...I was told that they were trying to actually >> > see what happens >> > in their device with some glass with a melting point of 1500 >> > deg C. They saw >> > it light up like the sun and then it melted the glass. This >> > just took a >> > second or two. I was told what their working theory was, but >> > they really >> > don't know what is going on. They have brought in several >> > academics with a >> > myriad of explanations ..." >> > >> > >> > > A new arxiv paper, possibly related to missing LENR >> > em-emissions - "Superabsorption of light via quantum engineering" >> > >> > > ABSTRACT: Almost 60 years ago Dicke introduced the term >> > superradiance to >> > > describe a signature quantum effect: N atoms can >> > collectively emit light >> > > at a rate proportional to N^2... Structures that >> > super-radiate must also >> > > have enhanced absorption... >> > >> > > Robert Dicke is one of the true heroes of Modern Science. >> > He is not >> > > generally credited with inventing the laser but in 1956 >> > Dicke filed a >> > > patent entitled "Molecular Amplification Generation >> > Systems and Methods" >> > > with a claim for an infrared laser. Townes usually gets >> > the credit, but >> > > his patent was not filed until 1958. >> > >> > > B.V. Zhdanov has done extensive work on potassium lasers, >> > so we know this >> > > is possible. There is a pretty good chance that the Rossi >> > HotCat is a >> > > resonant IR device using potassium stimulated emission, >> > which may involve >> > > superabsorption and superradiance. This could be a photon >> > chain reaction >> > > of some type. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >
